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Kanye West says he’s done with Trump—opens up about White House bid, damaging Biden and everything in between

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  1. [11]
    dubteedub
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    Just to be clear, Kanye still hasn't filed any paperwork to actually run. His "Birthday Party" is not real and exists in no legal form. He has anywhere from days to a few weeks depending on the...

    Just to be clear, Kanye still hasn't filed any paperwork to actually run.

    His "Birthday Party" is not real and exists in no legal form.

    He has anywhere from days to a few weeks depending on the state to get thousands of signatures collected to actually get on any ballots. Most states do not even count votes for a candidate if they do not file any paperwork.

    His comments on vaccines and microchips being the mark of the beast that will prevent you from entering heaven show he is clearly in the middle of a mental episode.

    Kanye is pretty obviously just duping some white media outlets for attention to market for an upcoming album or other project.

    His latest single already dropped off the charts.

    We should not take this seriously or give him the attention that he is desperately seeking here.

    32 votes
    1. [8]
      suspended
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      I'm the founder of r/AskBibleScholars so I thought I'd provide information from our FAQ about this. From u/Waksss:

      His comments on vaccines and microchips being the mark of the beast that will prevent you from entering heaven show he is clearly in the middle of a mental episode.

      I'm the founder of r/AskBibleScholars so I thought I'd provide information from our FAQ about this. From u/Waksss:

      I think the hand and forehead piece has some reference to the Shema. Deuteronomy 6:4-8. “Hear, O Israel: The LORD is our God, the LORD alone. You shall love the LORD our God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. Keep these words that I am commanding you today in your heart. Recite them to your children and talk about them when you are at home and when you are away, when you like down and when you rise. Bind them as a sign on your hand, fix them as an emblem on your forehead.”

      I think the number, there are a few theories I've read, one being the way in which you can connect 666 to Nero. I've found a more interesting, I think, explanation in connecting this moment back to 1st Kings 10:14-15. In that story, every year, Solomon weighs his gold, and every year it comes back the same, 666 talents. The point of the Kings narrative is that Solomon was moving the heart of the people away from God toward wealth and idolatry. Since 666 is an intensive symbol for incompleteness, idolatry, judgment, non-fulfillment, evil itself raised to the third power. The message is, no matter how many times you try to add up the life of the “empire” it always brings about incompleteness and destruction.

      In Revelation, I'd argue John has some of that in mind. I think John writes Revelation in a really political way against empire. Earlier in the book he talks about the people of God being marked by the lamb. If you're not marked by the lamb, you're marked by Empire. I think the marking is then a way for John to say, those who are marked by the 'beast' (empire) live in a life that falls short of true life given to those marked by the lamb.

      That's just the brief version, I pulled a lot of this from Unveiling Empire as well as some other great books on Revelation.

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      1. [7]
        dubteedub
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        I am aware of the mark of the beast / 666 bit from Revelations. Here is Kanye's statement on it: It is an extremely dangerous conspiracy theory to claim that vaccines are the mark of the beast.

        I am aware of the mark of the beast / 666 bit from Revelations.

        Here is Kanye's statement on it:

        “It’s so many of our children that are being vaccinated and paralyzed… So when they say the way we’re going to fix Covid is with a vaccine, I’m extremely cautious. That’s the mark of the beast. They want to put chips inside of us, they want to do all kinds of things, to make it where we can’t cross the gates of heaven. I'm sorry when I say they, the humans that have the Devil inside them. And the sad thing is that, the saddest thing is that we all won’t make it to heaven, that there’ll be some of us that do not make it. Next question.”

        It is an extremely dangerous conspiracy theory to claim that vaccines are the mark of the beast.

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        1. suspended
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          To be clear, I wasn't directing my comment to you personally. I thought the wider readership of Tildes would be interested in the subject. And thanks for providing the direct quote from Kanye.

          I am aware...

          To be clear, I wasn't directing my comment to you personally. I thought the wider readership of Tildes would be interested in the subject.

          And thanks for providing the direct quote from Kanye.

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        2. [5]
          vord
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          (spoken as an atheist) Very much so wrt vaccines, but IMO has a solid case about the chips. I don't like the idea of a mandatory sub-dermal chip, and the way US is going, I don't see it from being...

          (spoken as an atheist)

          Very much so wrt vaccines, but IMO has a solid case about the chips. I don't like the idea of a mandatory sub-dermal chip, and the way US is going, I don't see it from being that far off.

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          1. [4]
            Greg
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            I'll sidestep the question of would/wouldn't the US government be willing to do this, and ask instead: would you see them gaining anything specific (and worth the inevitable backlash) by...

            I'll sidestep the question of would/wouldn't the US government be willing to do this, and ask instead: would you see them gaining anything specific (and worth the inevitable backlash) by implanting chips rather than just using fingerprints/facial recognition/gait recognition/any other combination of noninvasive biometrics to track people?

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            1. [3]
              vord
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              It's less the government I'd be worried about, and more the private industry that gates the vast majority of income. And they do have a solid interest in doing so...retail workers could be chipped...

              It's less the government I'd be worried about, and more the private industry that gates the vast majority of income. And they do have a solid interest in doing so...retail workers could be chipped so they can't carry their phones but still be easily tracked and that sort of thing. I have yet to see a case of lessening workforce surveillance.

              And from what I've seen, once one employer does a thing and shows any benefit from it, others will do so quickly.

              Remember this article? Banning from being mandatory can be skirted around easily by only providing bonuses to people who do the implant.

              To top it off, thanks to our wonderful surveillance state, if the companies have the data, the government can get it too if they want it.

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              1. [2]
                dubteedub
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                Many states have already banned that ability of not just preventing employee microchipping, but of anyone. States Just Saying No to Employee Microchipping - March 2020 Both articles also say that...

                It's less the government I'd be worried about, and more the private industry that gates the vast majority of income. And they do have a solid interest in doing so...retail workers could be chipped so they can't carry their phones but still be easily tracked and that sort of thing. I have yet to see a case of lessening workforce surveillance.

                Many states have already banned that ability of not just preventing employee microchipping, but of anyone.

                At least three states have introduced legislation this session that would prohibit employers from implanting microchips in their employees, and one has proposed banning the microchipping of people more broadly, according to LexisNexis State Net’s legislative tracking system. Four states have already banned employee microchipping, while seven have enacted more general human microchipping bans, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

                Both articles also say that no employers in the country are microchipping anyone today as well. These measures are just proactive.

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                1. vord
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                  That's completely fair, and if these laws have teeth long term, I like it. But at the same time....a very basic good law like the Voting Rights Act got gutted so who knows what the future holds.

                  That's completely fair, and if these laws have teeth long term, I like it.

                  But at the same time....a very basic good law like the Voting Rights Act got gutted so who knows what the future holds.

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    2. culturedleftfoot
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      I don't expect him to actually put together anything substantial for this election, but I also don't think this is just music promotion. He mentioned he'd give his album away for free; usually I'd...

      I don't expect him to actually put together anything substantial for this election, but I also don't think this is just music promotion. He mentioned he'd give his album away for free; usually I'd be skeptical but it's in line with other stuff he's said long ago and he's at the financial point now where he can deliver on that. I think he is serious about wanting to be president, if not necessarily the pesky politics bit, and my guess is he'll probably end up looking to 2024. He's seen Trump win as an outsider and he thinks that he can do even better (because why not, he's Kanye the visionary).

      As to the mental health bit, that's so overarching with Kanye now that it's hard to dismiss what he does during his episodes because he doesn't walk anything back afterward. He does seem to think he's going through some sort of transformation/development as a person, and the religion piece is clearly a major ingredient.

      There was one thing he said in the interview that's particularly important, especially given the current zeitgeist, but I want to see if it resonates with anyone else rather than pointing it out myself.

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    3. ali
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      I used to be a huge Kanye fan and still love his old stuff. I didn’t mind the trump comments but nowadays it has just been so much bullshit that i can’t really stand it. I didn’t even know a new...

      His latest single already dropped off the charts.

      I used to be a huge Kanye fan and still love his old stuff. I didn’t mind the trump comments but nowadays it has just been so much bullshit that i can’t really stand it. I didn’t even know a new single was out and I listened to his new album probably like only once.

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  2. dblohm7
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    Kanye seems to me like a kamikaze candidate. Trump doesn't need to go after Joe if Kanye does it instead!

    Kanye seems to me like a kamikaze candidate. Trump doesn't need to go after Joe if Kanye does it instead!

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  3. Omnicrola
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    If he actually manages to file paperwork, I think this elevates American politics to level 2 cuil?

    If he actually manages to file paperwork, I think this elevates American politics to level 2 cuil?

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  4. culturedleftfoot
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    ON HIS PREVIOUS SUPPORT FOR TRUMP

    “Trump is the closest president we’ve had in years to allowing God to still be part of the conversation.”

    ON HIS MAGA HAT MOMENT

    “One of the main reasons I wore the red hat as a protest to the segregation of votes in the Black community. Also, other than the fact that I like Trump hotels and the saxophones in the lobby.”

    ON HIS FOREIGN POLICY

    “I haven’t developed it yet. I’m focused on protecting America, first, with our great military. Let’s focus on ourselves first.”

    ON DEVELOPING POLICIES

    “I don’t know if I would use the word policy for the way I would approach things. I don’t have a policy when I went to Nike and designed Yeezy and went to Louis and designed a Louis Vuitton at the same time. It wasn’t a policy, it was a design. We need to innovate the design to be able to free the mind at this time.”

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  5. YogyrtMaej
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    He didn't actually study tax policy or international relations. He said he still needs development on those areas, and while it's honest, this makes this entire campaign seem very unpromising. As...

    He didn't actually study tax policy or international relations. He said he still needs development on those areas, and while it's honest, this makes this entire campaign seem very unpromising. As for the idea of the birthday party, it's probably another name for running independent. Everything on vaccines makes me really question how Kanye will go about medical policy and how much he will prioritize supplies when he thinks they are "satanic". As for toothpaste, he's clearly talking about fluoride and pineal calcification. This prompts me to think he is even deeper in conspiracy culture.

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  6. [2]
    intuxikated
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    @ThatFanficGuy at least you've got you wished for. :)

    That he’s running for president in 2020 under a new banner—the Birthday Party—with guidance from Elon Musk and an obscure vice presidential candidate

    @ThatFanficGuy at least you've got you wished for. :)

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    1. ThatFanficGuy
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      To be clear: I didn't wish for anything like it to happen. However, in case it did happen, I would want to be first in line to see what, how, and why the hell is going on.

      To be clear:

      I didn't wish for anything like it to happen.

      However, in case it did happen, I would want to be first in line to see what, how, and why the hell is going on.

      2 votes