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Weekly thread for news/updates/discussion of George Floyd protests, racial injustice, and policing policy - week of July 27

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  1. Amarok
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    Here's an amusing one. New York's change to abolish 50-A and make police records public was halted by an injunction. Turns out that during the short window between the release and this injunction...

    Here's an amusing one. New York's change to abolish 50-A and make police records public was halted by an injunction. Turns out that during the short window between the release and this injunction going into effect, ProPublica got the information, and since they aren't a party to the lawsuit (meaning not bound by the injunction) they just published the entire database online.

    Answa012 on reddit compiled some of the data on the worst offenders and precincts. I'll repost it here for convenience.

    It's big, so I'm using expando to keep it collapsed.

    What stands out is that there are 38 officers with over 40 complaints, with 5 of them with 72-75 complaints each.

    Side note: As per the ProPublica data dump, they mentioned that these are closed cases of every active-duty police officer who had at least one substantiated allegation against them. The records span decades, from September 1985 to January 2020.

    Out of the 33,358 allegations, this is the breakdown based on resolutions.

    Unsubstantiated means the CCRB — which has limited investigative powers — was not able to confirm that the alleged incident happened and that it violated the NYPD’s rules.

    Resolution: Total: % of Total
    Exonerated 9,609 28.81%
    Substantiated (Charges) 3,796 11.38%
    Substantiated (Command Discipline A) 964 2.89%
    Substantiated (Command Discipline B) 789 2.37%
    Substantiated (Command Discipline) 851 2.55%
    Substantiated (Command Lvl Instructions) 454 1.36%
    Substantiated (Formalized Training) 1,033 3.10%
    Substantiated (Instructions) 248 0.74%
    Substantiated (MOS Unidentified) 1 0.00%
    Substantiated (No Recommendations) 165 0.49%
    Unsubstantiated 15,448 46.31%

    Breakdown of allegations by police ethnicity for all precincts. This only includes officers who have allegations against them.

    Police Ethnicity Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 32 0.10%
    Asian 1,178 3.53%
    Black 4,924 14.76%
    Hispanic 9,150 27.43%
    White 18,074 54.18%

    Here are the top 5 offenders for allegations. You can use the database they provided to see the type of allegations and outcomes of such. Apparently you can't search by the MOS IDs in the database... so names are added.

    MOS ID Name of Officer Allegations
    18731 Daniel Sbarra 75
    25861 Mathew Reich 75
    18530 Joseph Tallarine 73
    19489 Gary Messina 73
    18589 Christophe Mccormack 72

    Decided to look at the precincts with the most allegations and the numbers are jarring from the first and second place. These are only ones with over 1,000 allegations. Added information on which area the precincts serve for clarification.

    Precinct Allegations % of Total
    75 - Serves the easternmost portion of Brooklyn and envelopes East New York and Cypress Hills. 2,172 6.51%
    73 - Serves a northeastern area of Brooklyn containing Brownsville and Ocean Hill. 1,163 3.49%
    44 - Serves 1.97 square miles of the southwest portion of the Bronx: The precinct is home to the Grand Concourse, Bronx Terminal Market, and Yankee Stadium. 1,139 3.41%
    46 - Serves the central part of the western Bronx. The precinct contains the Fordham, University Heights, Morris Heights and Mount Hope neighborhoods. 1,120 3.36%
    67 - Serves a region in the center of Brooklyn, comprising East Flatbush and Remsen Village. 1,119 3.35%
    79 - Serves a northern portion of Brooklyn that includes Bedford Stuyvesant and features Herbert Von King Park. 1,062 3.18%
    40 - Serves Port Morris, Mott Haven, and Melrose. 1,009 3.02%

    Thanks to DM_me_ur_designs, he provided the following data from this source: https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/. It appears the following breakdown is from 06/01/2020 - 06/30/2020 only.

    Precinct Crimes Crimes per 1000 Population
    75 269 1.4673 183,328
    73 123 1.4225 86,468
    44 227 1.5501 146,441
    46 295 2.3011 128,200
    67 129 0.8309 155,252
    79 129 1.4292 90,263
    40 209 2.2842 91,497

    I don't have a lot of demographic data for each precinct but I was able to get the data from which demographic put in the allegation. For the breakdowns, some of the data was blank (uncounted).

    For Precinct 75, which has the most, the data isn't surprising to me at all.

    Complaint Ethnicity (P75) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 3 0.14%
    Asian 22 1.01%
    Black 1,349 62.11%
    Hispanic 297 13.67%
    Other Race 30 1.38%
    Refused 9 0.41%
    Unknown 82 3.78%
    White 32 1.47%
    Blank 348 16.02%

    Added the demographic of the police officers.

    Police Ethnicity (P75) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 0 0.00%
    Asian 75 3.45%
    Black 370 17.03%
    Hispanic 473 21.78%
    White 1,254 57.73%

    Added the data for Precinct 73 which had the 2nd highest allegations as well to see the difference.

    Complaint Ethnicity (P73) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 5 0.43%
    Asian 8 0.69%
    Black 864 74.29%
    Hispanic 95 8.17%
    Other Race 10 0.86%
    Refused 11 0.95%
    Unknown 23 1.98%
    White 7 0.60%
    Blank 145 12.47%

    Precinct 73 demographic breakdown.

    Police Ethnicity (P73) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 0 0.00%
    Asian 34 2.92%
    Black 286 24.59%
    Hispanic 294 25.28%
    White 549 47.21%

    Precinct 46 demographic breakdown.

    Complaint Ethnicity (P46) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 1 0.09%
    Asian 5 0.45%
    Black 479 42.77%
    Hispanic 385 34.38%
    Other Race 27 2.41%
    Refused 11 0.98%
    Unknown 22 1.96%
    White 23 2.05%
    Blank 167 14.91%

    Precinct 46 demographic breakdown.

    Police Ethnicity (P46) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 0 0.00%
    Asian 20 1.79%
    Black 140 12.50%
    Hispanic 416 37.14%
    White 544 48.57%

    Precinct 67 demographic breakdown.

    Complaint Ethnicity (P67) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 5 0.45%
    Asian 2 0.18%
    Black 844 75.42%
    Hispanic 30 2.68%
    Other Race 2 0.18%
    Refused 6 0.54%
    Unknown 42 3.75%
    White 4 0.36%
    Blank 184 16.44%

    Precinct 67 demographic breakdown.

    Police Ethnicity (P67) Total Allegations % of Total
    American Indian 0 0.00%
    Asian 43 3.84%
    Black 333 29.76%
    Hispanic 221 19.75%
    White 522 46.65%
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    spit-evil-olive-tips
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    Riots in downtown Richmond, Virginia over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.
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      MonkeyPants
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      Now I understand all the "false flag operation" conspiracies. It's yet another case of projection/ whatabout-ism.

      Now I understand all the "false flag operation" conspiracies. It's yet another case of projection/ whatabout-ism.

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      1. skybrian
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        It seems like it would be pretty difficult to limit such tactics in movements that anyone can join just by self-declaring?

        It seems like it would be pretty difficult to limit such tactics in movements that anyone can join just by self-declaring?

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  3. spit-evil-olive-tips
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    Yesterday in Seattle, a group of protesters tried to march to the Chief of Police's house. Chief Best doesn't actually live in Seattle, she lives in a suburb/exurb called Snohomish, which is a...

    Yesterday in Seattle, a group of protesters tried to march to the Chief of Police's house.

    Chief Best doesn't actually live in Seattle, she lives in a suburb/exurb called Snohomish, which is a 30-90 minute (depending on traffic) drive from downtown Seattle.

    They were met by armed vigilantes / counterprotesters who illegally blocked the road to prevent the march from happening.

    Chief Best has now written an open letter to the Seattle City Council, quickly picked up by local news, condemning the protests targeting her house.

    It's unclear what she expects the City Council to do about it because her house is completely outside the jurisdiction of Seattle.

    She also notably makes no mention of the armed vigilantes who turned the march away. Simply calls them "my neighbors".

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  4. skybrian
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    Trump’s crackdown sputters as ‘phased withdrawal’ from Portland begins

    Trump’s crackdown sputters as ‘phased withdrawal’ from Portland begins

    The Trump administration and Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) have agreed to something of a cease-fire in their battle over President Trump’s insistence on keeping federal law enforcement in Portland. As so often happens in such situations, Trump’s armies are withdrawing while declaring victory.

    But, based one what we know now, it appears Trump’s lieutenants have agreed to something of a climb-down, though it appears local officials have also made concessions.

    3 votes