Thanks for saying this. It really frustrates me that even after months of these protests people are still willing to take police at their word. I've lost track of the number of times police lied...
Thanks for saying this. It really frustrates me that even after months of these protests people are still willing to take police at their word. I've lost track of the number of times police lied about demonstrations.
I know for some it can be comforting to think that all the bad stuff is being done by "outside agitators", but this narrative gives more leeway for the police to crack down.
Lastly, while most property damage isn't great, the violence enacted by the police against protesters so far outweighs the property damage done by the protests that even talking about it feels like missing the point.
I am being extra careful because this is on a different continent, in a different culture than mine and I have zero knowledge of it. Whatever said here, please take that in to account. I am not,...
I am being extra careful because this is on a different continent, in a different culture than mine and I have zero knowledge of it. Whatever said here, please take that in to account. I am not, will not and will never be, an authority on this.
Isn't that a bit oversimplifying what a riot is? Very seldom a riot is planned. Sure people prep for violence, that happens in a lot of cases. And in the case of the few multiday riots I've been at, you plan in advance to ensure that you are protected etc etc etc. But someone just trashing a store front feels ... a tad odd. I mean that doesn't start anything and just some random person in an umbrella feels a bit weak sauce.
Now I have (as stated) NO BLESSED CLUE about how the US is, so everything here in is pure speculation, arse-guessing and just asking) but here the cops are not responding with violence when that happens, since they also plan ahead. This since the Anti-EU riots 2001, where they learned quickly that show-of-force feels good as news but is really the worst possible way to deal with protests (since it starts more riots than it ends).
My main source of information is a Linux dude who's gone all Trump-is-best that I use as a litmus test for my own opinions (if they are too close to his I need to reevaluate and investigate them to see if they hold mustard). So again - this is me asking for further information
This is something that any policing force worth their salt know at this point; "Thanks" to the riots in Ireland and how the British handled that situation. What is happening in US, if I have to...
show-of-force feels good as news but is really the worst possible way to deal with protests
This is something that any policing force worth their salt know at this point; "Thanks" to the riots in Ireland and how the British handled that situation.
What is happening in US, if I have to guess (emphasis guess), with regards to escalating violence in these protests, it works well for Trump as a distraction from his abysmal response to Covid, and also helps the narrative of his campaign ads [1]
My main source of information is a Linux dude who's gone all Trump-is-best
Is this a personal acquaintance or someone in the Linux community?
Oh look another 'violent protester' turned out to actually be a white supremacist trying to start a race war. How surprising.
Thanks for saying this. It really frustrates me that even after months of these protests people are still willing to take police at their word. I've lost track of the number of times police lied about demonstrations.
I know for some it can be comforting to think that all the bad stuff is being done by "outside agitators", but this narrative gives more leeway for the police to crack down.
Lastly, while most property damage isn't great, the violence enacted by the police against protesters so far outweighs the property damage done by the protests that even talking about it feels like missing the point.
I am being extra careful because this is on a different continent, in a different culture than mine and I have zero knowledge of it. Whatever said here, please take that in to account. I am not, will not and will never be, an authority on this.
Isn't that a bit oversimplifying what a riot is? Very seldom a riot is planned. Sure people prep for violence, that happens in a lot of cases. And in the case of the few multiday riots I've been at, you plan in advance to ensure that you are protected etc etc etc. But someone just trashing a store front feels ... a tad odd. I mean that doesn't start anything and just some random person in an umbrella feels a bit weak sauce.
Now I have (as stated) NO BLESSED CLUE about how the US is, so everything here in is pure speculation, arse-guessing and just asking) but here the cops are not responding with violence when that happens, since they also plan ahead. This since the Anti-EU riots 2001, where they learned quickly that show-of-force feels good as news but is really the worst possible way to deal with protests (since it starts more riots than it ends).
My main source of information is a Linux dude who's gone all Trump-is-best that I use as a litmus test for my own opinions (if they are too close to his I need to reevaluate and investigate them to see if they hold mustard). So again - this is me asking for further information
This is something that any policing force worth their salt know at this point; "Thanks" to the riots in Ireland and how the British handled that situation.
What is happening in US, if I have to guess (emphasis guess), with regards to escalating violence in these protests, it works well for Trump as a distraction from his abysmal response to Covid, and also helps the narrative of his campaign ads [1]
Is this a personal acquaintance or someone in the Linux community?
No no just a former "big name" in the Linux blogosphere (sry had to say "blogosphere" was too long since I got to say that)