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DC police arrest leader of the Proud Boys ahead of far-right protests

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  1. [10]
    dubteedub
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    Reporters on Twitter are stating that Enrique has been released but issued a stay away from D.C. order by the judge until his next court appearance in June. We will see if he tries to come back to...

    Reporters on Twitter are stating that Enrique has been released but issued a stay away from D.C. order by the judge until his next court appearance in June. We will see if he tries to come back to D.C. tomorrow still for the January 6th riot his group is planning at BLM plaza. I would not be surprised if he flaunts the order and I doubt this will have any material impact on the broader street gang members tomorrow.

    Edit: NPR Article - Proud Boys Leader Released From Police Custody And Ordered To Leave D.C.

    6 votes
    1. [9]
      JXM
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      I wonder if they would re-arrest him if he shows up at the rally...

      I wonder if they would re-arrest him if he shows up at the rally...

      2 votes
      1. [8]
        MimicSquid
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        Even if they don't arrest him on the spot, violation of the order would carry further consequences later. This looks like building up reasons to charge him with further, more serious offences....

        Even if they don't arrest him on the spot, violation of the order would carry further consequences later. This looks like building up reasons to charge him with further, more serious offences. Note that the reason he was taken in this time was in regards to a simple property damage charge. However, if he violates this order that's a more serious issue, leading to more serious response. This looks like preparation to imprison the head of the Proud Boys, though I don't know enough of their internal organization to say how important he is as an organizing figure.

        6 votes
        1. [7]
          Omnicrola
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          Without having done any research whatsoever, I had assumed that the Proud Boys had about as much organization/leadership as any internet-era movement such as the Boogaloo Boys. Which is to say,...

          Without having done any research whatsoever, I had assumed that the Proud Boys had about as much organization/leadership as any internet-era movement such as the Boogaloo Boys. Which is to say, none, and everyone.

          Now someone's going to tell me the Boogaloo Boys also have a leader, and an office somewhere, or something

          1 vote
          1. [6]
            dubteedub
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            The Proud Boys are a fascist street gang with a defined hierarchy, rules, levels of membership (to attain level 4 they have to agree to stop masturbating), and all sorts of other shit. In...

            The Proud Boys are a fascist street gang with a defined hierarchy, rules, levels of membership (to attain level 4 they have to agree to stop masturbating), and all sorts of other shit.

            In contrast, the Boogaloos are just an assortment of shitposters trying to egg each other on to commit acts of terrorism under the guise of shitposting.

            12 votes
            1. [5]
              teaearlgraycold
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              Uh, so... what's the rationale here?

              to attain level 4 they have to agree to stop masturbating

              Uh, so... what's the rationale here?

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              1. MimicSquid
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                Standard ethnonationalist playbook: propagate your race through focusing all sexual urges towards procreation. Also, redirecting all pleasurable individual activity into realms the group can control.

                Standard ethnonationalist playbook: propagate your race through focusing all sexual urges towards procreation. Also, redirecting all pleasurable individual activity into realms the group can control.

                12 votes
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                  Good_Apollo
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                  Oh they’re all about T levels, that’s why they call the opposition “soyboys”. Soy, I guess in large quantities can block some T production? I don’t know if there’s any legitimate veracity to that...

                  Oh they’re all about T levels, that’s why they call the opposition “soyboys”.

                  Soy, I guess in large quantities can block some T production? I don’t know if there’s any legitimate veracity to that but it’s like their mantra to avoid anything that interferes with T levels.

                  It’s insidious how they’ve tied masculinity to this cause.

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                  1. cutchyacokov
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                    No, it's complete bro-science trash. It originally comes from one study on the affects of phyto-estrogens in clover on sheep. The connection to soy (that it has some similar phyto-estrogens) is...

                    Soy, I guess in large quantities can block some T production? I don’t know if there’s any legitimate veracity to that but it’s like their mantra to avoid anything that interferes with T levels.

                    No, it's complete bro-science trash. It originally comes from one study on the affects of phyto-estrogens in clover on sheep. The connection to soy (that it has some similar phyto-estrogens) is strained at best. If you are at all concerned about consuming hormones, animal hormones and in particular mammal hormones, are likely to be the most compatible and thus most destructive to humans, for obvious reasons. The real reason you see this so much is that vegetarianism/veganism are seen as being feminine-coded and are a sign that you are a bleeding heart, must make men weak and "girly," right? Well I'm on perhaps the most soy-boy diet of all, Whole Food Plant-Based (vegan with no added oil, sugar, or any non-whole-grains) and, although I haven't had it tested, it's very clear that my testosterone is much higher than it's ever been, gaining muscle faster, body and facial hair darkened and thickened rapidly, all this in less than 2 years and I'm coming up on 40.

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                  2. Micycle_the_Bichael
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                    A 30-minute comedic but well sourced video about the full history of the soyboys trend and the "science" it is based on, and also why its all bullshit Edit: Just because I hate this fucking soy...

                    A 30-minute comedic but well sourced video about the full history of the soyboys trend and the "science" it is based on, and also why its all bullshit

                    Edit: Just because I hate this fucking soy talking point so much I'm just going to also directly link to a metastudy of the effect of soy intake on men and quote the conclusion to make it super clear that anyone making this talking point is wrong. They might not be malicious, but they are definitively wrong:

                    SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
                    Isoflavones are diphenolic molecules that have a chemical structuresimilar to estrogen and exert estrogen-like effects in some tissues un-der certain conditions. Consequently, concern has been raised that isoflavones have feminizing effects in men and adversely affectmale reproductive health. Findings that support this concern include those from a pilot epidemiologic study that linked soy intake with lower sperm concentration among infertile men(10), a case report linking excessive isoflavone intake with raised estrogen levels andgynecomastia(8), limited clinical research showing soy intake lowers blood T levels(88, 107), and rodent research suggesting isoflavone (daidzein) exposure can lead to ED(97, 121, 123, 133). However, the clinical evidence overwhelmingly indicates that there is essentially no basis for concern. Isoflavone exposure at levels even greatly exceeding reasonable dietary intakes does not affect blood T or estrogen levels in men or sperm and semen parameters. The ED-related findings in rats can be attributed to excessive isoflavone exposure and to differences in isoflavone metabolism between rodents and humans. Thus, men can feel confident that making soy a part of their diet will not compromise their virility or reproductive health.

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  2. dubteedub
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    Looks like some of the folks got a little antsy last night and tried to kick things off early. A bunch of MAGA supporters and other chuds clashed with police last night in D.C. around BLM plaza...

    Looks like some of the folks got a little antsy last night and tried to kick things off early. A bunch of MAGA supporters and other chuds clashed with police last night in D.C. around BLM plaza and several were arrested already.

    With Tarrio banned and now some more folks arrested, I wonder if this means some of the more troublesome folks are already going to be shut out of today's downtown skirmish.

    Anyway, I really enjoyed watching the clips of Proud Boys get just a light squeeze of pepper spray last night and completely break ranks because they have no experience dealing with police.

    https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1346662458916630528

    Proud Boys in DC tonight have absolutely zero street experience, no gear, and no situational awareness of police tactics. They keep walking into obvious kettles and getting maced and arrested by the cops

    https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1346731403950505984

    So-called “antifa cowards” mounted a months-long uprising against the combined forces of Portland Police Bureau, DHS SRT, BORTAC,and US Marshals. Proud Boys just got dominated by a few DC bicycle cops with pepper spray. No riot cops, no rubber bullets.

    Hopefully we get more of the same today.

    5 votes