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Having doubled the amount of zones under their control in the last two months, even the Taliban are surprised at how fast they're advancing
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- Title
- Taliban forces rapidly gaining ground in Afghanistan as U.S. leaves
- Published
- Jun 25 2021
- Word count
- 1040 words
I don't see how any of that is mutually exclusive, though. This can simulatenously be the correct action for the US government, and also be one with serious consequences for the humans on the ground that the US left behind.
That isn't at odds with each other. Terrible things can happen when you do the correct decision, because sometimes all decisions are terrible.
That doesn't mean you should just white wash the terrible aspects of the decision and pretend they don't exist. You should know that they exist, and accept them. Otherwise it's a terrible disservice to the people on the ground whom are living through those consequences.
And, to be honest, I think you should care, inasmuch as it is possible to care about people you've never met thousands of miles away. Caring does not mean you think it was a bad decision.
But where are these appeals? This article is a straight forward reporting of the strategic overview of Afghanistan (i.e Afghan government's not doing great) plus some voices from the civilians on the ground. Nowhere does it plea for the US to stay longer, or call Biden a war criminal or something. The closest is the very last line
But I think it'd be a stretch to really call that any kind of argument that the US should stay.
If you do see people arguing that the US should stay elsewhere, I see no issue in representing your side but in the context of this thread it feels like fighting ghosts.
The world does need that, though. It's an important thing to actualize how shitty of a catch-22 you put US allies in Afghanistan when you dip on them. The lesson from US involvement in the middle east can't just leave out the ongoing impact it has on the people in the area to swoop in, half heartedly prop up a failing government, and then leave them to their fate decades later.
For one, "Taliban taking ground" is actual world news the same way it would be if the US was never involved - of course it would have more coverage. Secondly, I think it's a huge disservice if any news outlet published a purely positive extolling of Biden leaving Afghanistan. That would be, to be frank, disgusting.
The fears that negative news would somehow reverse the US's withdrawal is also somewhat absurd - for one, it's not a reversible action - once you abandon occupied land you can't just casually come back later, and secondly these decisions are by fiat from the current President, not the masses, and we have a president now who doesn't make all his decisions from Twitter and cable news.
Shouldn't it be newsworthy? Shouldn't there be some self reflection involved? I think you're right -- staying indefinitely isn't tenable but that doesn't make it an easy decision.
Occupying a country and manufacturing a new 'reality' for the people there only to pull the rug out is going to result in the murder and rape of some of these newfound allies when their reality implodes. Talking about that isn't an attempt to muddy the waters in favour of staying -- it's a necessary acknowledgement of the wanton destruction you're inflicting.
I agree but, honestly, the main reason I posted this other than showing that the Taliban will take over was so that we can feel at least a bit bad for it, given the Taliban will probably be worse for the people there than the US occupation and war. Clearly the occupation and war fixed nothing, and, given Bush, it definitely wasn't declared and waged with good intentions, but Afghanistan falling to the Taliban (well, falling back to where it was before the US involvement apparently, before their own attack got them invaded) seems like something worth mourning at least a little.
Keep in mind that one of the primary reasons stated for the 9/11 attack was for the USA to stop its imperialist meddling in the Middle East.
Perhaps we'd be in a far different world if we had listened in those decades past, before 9/11 and the foreverwar it kicked off.
I'm not sure how this all will work out. Is this basically going to be a R.I.P for the Afghani government since it was nothing w/o the US or is there something I'm missing here concerning the historical context?
*Finally admits defeat in Afghanistan
*National politics have become completely dysfunctional
*Media is completely incapable of representing any kind of "truth": it's essentially just a big game of PR feudalism, parroting talking points and browbeating the relative "outgroup" as harmful.
*Buildings and infrastructure, built in the halcyon days is beginning to collapse. Regular power and utility outages...Any project to "fix" it will just invite more corruption.
Man, the last few years before the collapse of the Soviet Union were rough...