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Men shot by Kyle Rittenhouse can be called ‘rioters’ and ‘looters’ but not ‘victims,’ judge rules

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  1. [2]
    dubteedub
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    This is the same judge has prevented prosecutors from demonstrating Kyle Rittenhouse's links to the Proud Boys after he took a bunch of pictures posing with them at a bar and then flew to Miami a...

    This is the same judge has prevented prosecutors from demonstrating Kyle Rittenhouse's links to the Proud Boys after he took a bunch of pictures posing with them at a bar and then flew to Miami a couple days later to have lunch with their President.

    The judge has also previously ruled that despite being an adult, the prosecutors have to call him "Kyle" in court and not "Rittenhouse," among a number of other bullshit rulings.

    Not to be understated, Schroeder also ruled on Monday that only the defense can refer to Rittenhouse by his first name during the trial. Schroeder said he typically makes the court refer to adults by their last name. Rittenhouse has since turned 18 years old is an adult for all intents and purposes — except in Schroeder’s courtroom.

    Earlier this year, Schroeder extended more sympathetic treatment to Rittenhouse that defy legal standards by inexplicably ruling that the teenager did not violate the terms of his bond by concealing his address from the court. Thus, demands by a prosecutor to increase Rittenhouse’s bond and issue a warrant for his arrest were denied. Schroeder said during the February hearing that he didn’t think doing so would be lawful.

    Schroeder said Rittenhouse did not commit a serious crime when violating the terms of his bond that the teenager agreed to and has been present at every court appearance and abided by all other conditions imposed upon him.

    I am certainly not holding out hope for a just or fair ruling in this case.

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    1. spit-evil-olive-tips
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      some more of this judge's greatest hits, via this twitter thread: 1987: A Kenosha County judge who is requiring AIDS tests for convicted prostitutes says he hopes his unusual orders will be...

      some more of this judge's greatest hits, via this twitter thread:

      1987: A Kenosha County judge who is requiring AIDS tests for convicted prostitutes says he hopes his unusual orders will be challenged by civil libertarians, ''and I hope they lose.''

      2006: The reputation of one Kenosha County circuit judge is apparently so daunting that hundreds of defendants request a different judge, creating imbalances in the workloads of different felony courts.

      2021: Appeals court overturns public shaming sentence of Kenosha County judge in local retail theft case

      As part of the conditions of that supervision, Schroeder ordered that Brown stay away from the Pleasant Prairie mall, and ordered that at any store she entered while she was on supervision she “notify management at the service desk that she is on supervision for retail theft.”

      In requiring that notification, Schroeder told Brown that condition “is “going to embarrass you, of course” and continued that while the courts no longer put people in stocks “to be embarrassed and humiliated .. (the court feels) that embarrassment does have a valuable place in deterring criminality.” Schroeder upheld the condition when asked to reconsider in a post-conviction motion.

      I guess the good news is that the appeals court above him has gotten used to his bullshit by now and will probably take a dim view of his rulings in this case.

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  2. knocklessmonster
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    Let's say by some miracle Rittenhouse didn't do it, but these folks were still shot: They're still victims. The judge is just trying to switch to words that are loaded in a way he prefers.

    Let's say by some miracle Rittenhouse didn't do it, but these folks were still shot: They're still victims. The judge is just trying to switch to words that are loaded in a way he prefers.

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    cfabbro
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    But referring to them as "rioters", "looters" and "arsonists" isn't loaded? And even if any of them did any of those things, they can still be "victims" in the murder case, can't they? WTF

    A Wisconsin judge ruled Monday that attorneys in the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial could refer to the men the teen shot in Kenosha, Wis., last year as “rioters,” “looters” and “arsonists.” They could not, however, describe Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, who were killed, and Gaige Grosskreutz, who was wounded, as “victims” because the term was “loaded,” the judge said.

    But referring to them as "rioters", "looters" and "arsonists" isn't loaded? And even if any of them did any of those things, they can still be "victims" in the murder case, can't they? WTF

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