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Elon Musk’s Neuralink allegedly subjected monkeys to ‘extreme suffering’

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    MimicSquid
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    Is there any other source for this news? While I'm no fan of Musky boy, the NY Post doesn't have a good reputation for the quality of their news, to put it lightly.

    Is there any other source for this news? While I'm no fan of Musky boy, the NY Post doesn't have a good reputation for the quality of their news, to put it lightly.

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      spit-evil-olive-tips
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      here is the primary source, a press release from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine: at first glance, I think they're highlighting a very valid concern. separate from the...

      here is the primary source, a press release from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine:

      The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine—a national nonprofit with more than 17,000 doctor members—filed a complaint with the USDA today against the University of California, Davis, for violations of the federal Animal Welfare Act related to invasive and deadly brain experiments conducted on 23 monkeys. UC Davis received more than $1.4 million from Elon Musk’s company Neuralink to carry out the experiments. The complaint is based on almost 600 pages of disturbing documents released only after the Physicians Committee filed an initial public records lawsuit in 2021. Also today, the Physicians Committee filed a second public records lawsuit in Yolo County Superior Court to compel the university to release videos and photographs of the monkeys. Most of the animals had portions of their skulls removed to implant electrodes in their brains as part of Neuralink’s development of a “brain-machine interface.”

      at first glance, I think they're highlighting a very valid concern. separate from the allegations about how the animals are treated (which we don't have enough information to draw conclusions about currently) this seems like a really shady setup:

      The university has refused to release photos and videos, claiming that the records belong to Neuralink, a private company not subject to California’s Public Records Act. The Physicians Committee argues that work conducted and materials created at public facilities are subject to the California Public Records Act and must be disclosed.

      Neuralink seems to be trying to have their cake and eat it too - they want their research to carry the imprimatur of "conducted at a major public research university" rather than "it was at our private lab lol just trust us". but, they don't want to comply with the public records requirements that public universities are also held to. they want all the benefits of the research being "public" but none of the responsibilities.

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      1. shiruken
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        It's probably worth noting that the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) is a vocal anti-animal research organization that is strongly affiliated with PETA and has clashed with the...

        It's probably worth noting that the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) is a vocal anti-animal research organization that is strongly affiliated with PETA and has clashed with the American Medical Association (AMA) in the past. Many animal research activist groups have a history of making misleading or downright fraudulent claims in their efforts to get animal research shut down.

        That being said, UC Davis refusing to release documents is unacceptable. Companies that opt to conduct research at academic institutions should not be allowed to hide their dealings from the public, especially when the welfare of primate research subjects are in question.

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