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Why astronomers are worried that SpaceX’s satellite network will pollute the night sky

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  1. [3]
    Arshan
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    Personally, I dislike this argument, if Musk is being vaguely accurate with his claims on performance. Starlink, or a comparable system, could bring about the next technological revolution. It is...

    Personally, I dislike this argument, if Musk is being vaguely accurate with his claims on performance. Starlink, or a comparable system, could bring about the next technological revolution. It is the decentralized, in form not ownership, backbone the internet needs. It would make the Great Firewall an engineering nightmare; it would give quality internet access to isolated communities. Earth-bound astronomy is the past anyway; space-based telescopes are going to be necessary eventually. The potential human good can't be overrun for so minimal a problem.

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      Eylrid
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      Not if the Chinese government has the cooperation of the companies running the satellites. Tesla is building a large factory in China to the serve the Chinese market. Musk went to China last year...

      It would make the Great Firewall an engineering nightmare

      Not if the Chinese government has the cooperation of the companies running the satellites. Tesla is building a large factory in China to the serve the Chinese market. Musk went to China last year to break ground and smooze with the premier to get their support. He wouldn't want to jeopardize that relationship by going against them on the firewall.

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      1. hhh
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        I bet it’s more profitable for him to work for the chinese govt. too

        I bet it’s more profitable for him to work for the chinese govt. too

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    asoftbird
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    Is there no commission or government agency that needs to give permission for sending up that many satellites, or can anyone with a bag of money shoot up sats willy-nilly? It seems weird to me...

    Is there no commission or government agency that needs to give permission for sending up that many satellites, or can anyone with a bag of money shoot up sats willy-nilly?

    It seems weird to me that Elongated Musk can just do this and backlash only appears after it's happened.

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    1. [5]
      Deimos
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      The FCC approved it: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/27/18519778/spacex-starlink-fcc-approval-satellite-internet-constellation-lower-orbit
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      1. unknown user
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        While true, there's a lot to be said about regulatory capture and the influence of lobbying on govt departments in the U.S. that are of a questionable nature. Frankly I find it hard to consider...

        While true, there's a lot to be said about regulatory capture and the influence of lobbying on govt departments in the U.S. that are of a questionable nature. Frankly I find it hard to consider many U.S. govt departments impartial.

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        asoftbird
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        Isn't that a US-based organization? If so, since the satellites cover other countries' airspace as well, don't they get a say in what flies overhead?

        Isn't that a US-based organization? If so, since the satellites cover other countries' airspace as well, don't they get a say in what flies overhead?

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        1. Deimos
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          Space law is an interesting and pretty weird topic. I don't know much about the Starlink case in particular, but the FCC approval document does mention a few things about them needing to satisfy...

          Space law is an interesting and pretty weird topic. I don't know much about the Starlink case in particular, but the FCC approval document does mention a few things about them needing to satisfy International Telecommunication Union regulations.

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        2. j3n
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          The short answer is that the US governs US launches, Russia governs Russian launches, India governs Indian launches, etc. So aside from some very basic international treaties, no, other countries...

          The short answer is that the US governs US launches, Russia governs Russian launches, India governs Indian launches, etc. So aside from some very basic international treaties, no, other countries don't get a say in what flies overhead as long as the launch operator can find at least one country to approve the launch.

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    crdpa
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    So... How does this work? How fast it will be? We would access it like wifi?

    So... How does this work? How fast it will be? We would access it like wifi?

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    1. j3n
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      We would not access it like WiFi exactly. It has a lot of similar characteristics to WiFi in terms of speed and performance, but it requires a large antenna (the common comparison on the internet...

      We would not access it like WiFi exactly. It has a lot of similar characteristics to WiFi in terms of speed and performance, but it requires a large antenna (the common comparison on the internet is "pizza box sized", but we haven't seen an actual prototype yet) that will prevent it from being integrated into every device individually the way WiFi has been.

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    2. godless
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      There's a little information about it on the official website - The technology should be capable of gigabit or better speeds, with a projected latency of around 10ms. However, none of that has...

      There's a little information about it on the official website - The technology should be capable of gigabit or better speeds, with a projected latency of around 10ms. However, none of that has been confirmed.

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