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Musk bans remote work at Twitter, warns staff of “dire” economic outlook

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  1. DanBC
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    I wonder if he's just committed dozens, hundreds, of ADA violations? Some of those people working from home will be doing so as an accommodation for a disability. I'm guess he has zero training in...

    I wonder if he's just committed dozens, hundreds, of ADA violations? Some of those people working from home will be doing so as an accommodation for a disability.

    that any exceptions to the ban must be approved by Musk himself on a case-by-case basis. The new rules "will expect employees to be in the office for at least 40 hours per week, he added," Bloomberg reported.

    The change takes effect today. "Obviously, if you are physically unable to travel to an office or have a critical personal obligation, then your absence is understandable," Musk wrote in yesterday's email,

    I'm guess he has zero training in occupational health and has no idea about why some people need adjustments. He's reckless enough to not care about the law. This is potentially Yet Another Expensive Mistake that he's making.

    12 votes
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    cfabbro
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    Also, another funny Twitter gaff worth sharing, but not really worth its own submission: Paid Verified Check Causes Frenzy After Fake LeBron Trade Tweet

    Also, another funny Twitter gaff worth sharing, but not really worth its own submission:
    Paid Verified Check Causes Frenzy After Fake LeBron Trade Tweet

    8 votes
    1. arghdos
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      TechDirt has a whole collection of ways people have been abusing the new check system.

      TechDirt has a whole collection of ways people have been abusing the new check system.

      8 votes
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    Amarok
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    I admit I'm having a good laugh over this train wreck. I guess I just enjoy watching people who spout off about free speech crash headfirst into the intractable problem of human self-governance...

    I admit I'm having a good laugh over this train wreck. I guess I just enjoy watching people who spout off about free speech crash headfirst into the intractable problem of human self-governance and go down in flames. It never gets old.

    Elon has recreated Something Awful's business model. Welcome to 1999, everyone. If only papa Lowtax were still alive to sue for stealing it, he could pay off all that crippling debt. SA actually has more moderators right now than Twitter does. It's a bizarre world.

    Why not go back to The Well's model from '85, charge $40 a month, require a real credit card or bank account on file, and force everyone to always post everything under their full real world name? Of course, most people wouldn't use the platform if their real names were attached to everything, but at least now we're all verified!

    7 votes
    1. [7]
      TemulentTeatotaler
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      Are we getting a new Slanderman? I'm mildly thankful to Elon for giving such a great cultural touchstone of ineptness. I saw so many people saying what amounted to "surely X wasn't a terrible...

      recreated Something Awful

      Are we getting a new Slanderman?

      I'm mildly thankful to Elon for giving such a great cultural touchstone of ineptness. I saw so many people saying what amounted to "surely X wasn't a terrible idea/going to happen/etc.", because Elon must be smart, otherwise he wouldn't be a billionaire.

      People rail against government as being terrible and inefficient as if the private world isn't often demonstrably worse, with no incentive to benefit the public.

      7 votes
      1. [2]
        vord
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        Always one of those self-fulfilling prophecies isn't it? If you label the government inept and not worthy of your money they'll be underfunded and perpetually terrible. Incidentally you'll notice...

        People rail against government as being terrible and inefficient

        Always one of those self-fulfilling prophecies isn't it? If you label the government inept and not worthy of your money they'll be underfunded and perpetually terrible.

        Incidentally you'll notice the most-engrained tales of government ineptitude are told (and caused by) the right wing.

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        1. babypuncher
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          It's worse than that. If you run for office with a campaign labeling the government inept and not worthy of people's money, then you have all the incentive in the world to make sure that statement...

          If you label the government inept and not worthy of your money they'll be underfunded and perpetually terrible.

          It's worse than that. If you run for office with a campaign labeling the government inept and not worthy of people's money, then you have all the incentive in the world to make sure that statement is actually true once you are in power.

          6 votes
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        Thrabalen
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        Billionaires aren't good with money... they pretty much don't have to be. They also don't have money because they're smart. It's almost mathematically impossible to become a billionaire solely...

        Billionaires aren't good with money... they pretty much don't have to be. They also don't have money because they're smart. It's almost mathematically impossible to become a billionaire solely through hard work, luck is a sure factor in a billionaire's life. So when they have more money than they know what to do with through factors they weren't entirely (or, in the case of someone who inherited that wealth, at all) responsible for, they tend to display cosmic levels of ineptitude if left to their own devices.

        Most wealthy people will keep people around whose job it is to babysit the money. Musk does not appear to have this.

        7 votes
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          papasquat
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          Yeah, I think that that's something that gets lost in criticism of billionaires. They are all incredibly lucky. I don't know how you could possibly argue otherwise. They also are incredibly hard...

          Yeah, I think that that's something that gets lost in criticism of billionaires. They are all incredibly lucky. I don't know how you could possibly argue otherwise. They also are incredibly hard working. People who are critical of them dismiss that fact in a fury and fervor to illustrate just how unworthy and morally awful they are; they're stupid, they're lazy, they just lucked out.

          That's basically not ever the case though. By and large, they're extremely smart, hard working people. The issue is of course, there are literally billions of extremely smart, hard working people. Probably hundreds of millions that are smarter and harder working than the people who control most of the world's wealth. They just didn't luck out in the way billionaires did.

          Even if all billionaires "earned" what they have through being the smartest and hardest working people in the world, those attributes are gained by the specifics of their circumstances; by who their parents happened to be, by the specifics of their childhoods, and by random mutations of DNA. It doesn't make sense that because of some specific set of random attributes a person has, they should live lives tens of thousands of times easier and more luxurious than most people at the expense of everyone else's happiness. Denying that they're smart or hard workers doesn't change that.

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          1. skybrian
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            Some inherited it and stay out of the news. Others are (were) Russian oligarchs. It seems hard to generalize. How many billionaires do you know?

            Some inherited it and stay out of the news. Others are (were) Russian oligarchs. It seems hard to generalize. How many billionaires do you know?

      3. skybrian
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        It's certainly striking how fast he's screwing up, even having already thought that he has a lot of bad qualities and is only sometimes competent. But making general claims about government versus...

        It's certainly striking how fast he's screwing up, even having already thought that he has a lot of bad qualities and is only sometimes competent.

        But making general claims about government versus capitalism is tedious. Trump and Putin have done far more damage, obviously. Do you suppose Liz Truss did more economic damage? And that proves... what?

        More power, larger blast radius, I guess? Government leaders have more power and control much larger budgets, though under lots of constraints, too.

        2 votes
    2. raze2012
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      Geez, had no idea Lowtax was dead, and for over a year now. I wasn't exactly an avid poster, but I did have an account to follow some old school LP's (which for the unaware, isn't free. SA forums...

      Geez, had no idea Lowtax was dead, and for over a year now. I wasn't exactly an avid poster, but I did have an account to follow some old school LP's (which for the unaware, isn't free. SA forums were infamous for its "Ten Bux" needed to create an accoun, not just verification). 45 too, way too young.

      On topic: that was an asinine idea and I'm confused on how this was even justified as "free speech". Verification doesn't equate for the ability to say what you want, the last 15 years of Twitter showed that well enough.

      I sure don't trust Musk to do it, but a "free speech" change would entail a change to how moderation works. Which can make sense since Twitter has often banned some accounts almost arbitrarily. But that's either not happening or is buried in the current circus of this last few weeks.

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    patience_limited
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    What's dire is that Elon seems to be burning down the Tesla Solar business to fund this boondoggle. The spouse recently inveigled me into following a few significant accounts on Twitter. The only...

    What's dire is that Elon seems to be burning down the Tesla Solar business to fund this boondoggle.

    The spouse recently inveigled me into following a few significant accounts on Twitter. The only joy I've taken in it since is the exquisite Schadenfreude of this, and this, which literally reduced me to tears of laughter.

    Now I can cozen him into following my Better Internet™ instead.

    4 votes
    1. vord
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      Thank you for showing my my two new favorite things.

      Thank you for showing my my two new favorite things.

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  5. cfabbro
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    Another new twitter related article: Report: Tweets with racial slurs soar since Musk takeover (AP) p.s. I love how almost every article about Twitter now, from almost every new org, ends with the...

    Another new twitter related article:
    Report: Tweets with racial slurs soar since Musk takeover (AP)

    Instances of racial slurs have soared on Twitter since Elon Musk purchased the influential platform, despite assurances from the platform that it had reduced hateful activity, a digital civil rights group reported Thursday.

    Researchers at the Center for Countering Digital Hate found that the number of tweets containing one of several different racial slurs soared in the week after Musk bought Twitter.

    A racial epithet used to attack Black people was found more than 26,000 times, three times the average for 2022. Use of a slur that targets trans people increased 53%, while instances of an offensive term for homosexual men went up 39% over the yearly average.

    Examples of offensive terms used to target Jews and Hispanics also increased.

    All told, the researchers looked at nearly 80,000 English-language tweets and retweets from around the world that contained one of the offensive terms they searched for.

    “The figures show that despite claims from Twitter’s Head of Trust and Safety, Yoel Roth, that the platform had succeeded in reducing the number of times hate speech was being seen on Twitter’s search and trending page, the actual volume of hateful tweets has spiked,” according to the analysis from the center, a nonprofit with offices in the U.S. and United Kingdom.

    Roth resigned Thursday, joining the large number of Twitter employees who have either resigned from Twitter or been laid off since Musk took control.

    A day before, Roth acknowledged the recent increase in hate speech on the site but said the platform had made significant progress in bringing the numbers down.

    “We’ve put a stop to the spike in hateful conduct, but that the level of hateful activity on the service is now about 95% lower than it was before the acquisition,” Roth said in remarks broadcast live on Twitter. “Changes that we’ve made and the proactive enforcement that we carried out are making Twitter safer relative to where it was before.”

    An executive confirmed Roth’s resignation to coworkers on an internal messaging board seen by The Associated Press on Thursday.

    Within just 12 hours of Musk’s purchase being finalized, references to a specific racist epithet used to demean Black people shot up by 500%, according to an analysis conducted by the Network Contagion Research Institute, a Princeton, New Jersey-based firm that tracks disinformation.

    Twitter did not immediately respond Thursday to messages seeking comment on the findings of the new report.

    p.s. I love how almost every article about Twitter now, from almost every new org, ends with the same "Twitter did not immediately respond" line. LOL

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