After visiting about half a million articles that infuriatingly fail to link any primary sources, here is the current 2001 copyright directive and the new Directive on Copyright in the Digital...
After visiting about half a million articles that infuriatingly fail to link any primary sources, here is the current 2001 copyright directive and the new Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market if anyone's interested in reading the actual wording. Articles 11 and 13 can be found on pages 54 and 56 respectively in the new document.
This is absolutely insane. I'm extremely worried that they believe they have the capability to enforce this, and what that might mean for the rest of the world.
This is absolutely insane. I'm extremely worried that they believe they have the capability to enforce this, and what that might mean for the rest of the world.
This pattern has become very popular especially since the DMCA. It is not about being feasible or attainable, it's about putting in place laws and the legal framework to be able to attack whatever...
This pattern has become very popular especially since the DMCA.
It is not about being feasible or attainable, it's about putting in place laws and the legal framework to be able to attack whatever they wish to.
Yes there is no technology to be able to fully and accurately implement the rules. It doesn't matter. These laws will be wielded by the music and media industries to take down at will whatever they want and that is the purpose. These industries know full well they can't compete with ever changing technological innovations, so they've taken a different approach. Laws like this and the DMCA enable them to control places like youtube and spotify - and whatever takes their place in the future - and to continue to control things that way rather than compete in a technological arms race which they inevitably cannot win..
It is. Every company in their right mind will stop having offices in the EU to avoid jurisdiction. Except for YouTube and Facebook nearly no company even has the ability to scan through their...
[...] and thought "I would love to see them try to enforce this" because it's just about impossible. [...]
It is. Every company in their right mind will stop having offices in the EU to avoid jurisdiction. Except for YouTube and Facebook nearly no company even has the ability to scan through their content automatically and doing it by hand will result in insane costs. The proposers of this law are basically asking for the European digital market to be destroyed.
If it will ever come to that, expect business to offer that feature to other businesses. There's no reason to expect that every single company will choose to develop the means in-house, even if...
no company even has the ability to scan through their content automatically
If it will ever come to that, expect business to offer that feature to other businesses. There's no reason to expect that every single company will choose to develop the means in-house, even if they have the expertise or funds.
Even with the technology to scan through the data one still needs the resources for it. The amount of computing power required make sites with user generated content highly unprofitable.
Even with the technology to scan through the data one still needs the resources for it. The amount of computing power required make sites with user generated content highly unprofitable.
Yeah @Gecko had a good point on that; That it's more about having the freedom to selectively enforce this, rather than actually having some real concern or expectation of eliminating a specific...
Yeah @Gecko had a good point on that; That it's more about having the freedom to selectively enforce this, rather than actually having some real concern or expectation of eliminating a specific problem.
This was all a distant threat when this shit was happening to Americans but now this all seems too real and seeing how fast this is happening I fear it will pass before we can realize it.
This was all a distant threat when this shit was happening to Americans but now this all seems too real and seeing how fast this is happening I fear it will pass before we can realize it.
I feel like this is one of those situations where the EU was given an inch with GDPR and now they're taking the full mile. We cannot give pseudo governments this kind of power! No matter if it's...
I feel like this is one of those situations where the EU was given an inch with GDPR and now they're taking the full mile.
We cannot give pseudo governments this kind of power! No matter if it's under the guise of user protection, or blatant censorship.
I know I'm biased, but the Reddit thread on /r/europe about it is pretty good and balanced. This comment which explains a few things, is also a good read. I was surprised when Julia Reda posted an...
This article is meant to extend provisions that so far exist to protect creatives to news publishers. Under the proposal, using a 'snippet' with headline, thumbnail picture and short excerpt would require a (paid) license - as would media monitoring services, fact-checking services and bloggers. This is directed at Google and Facebook which are generating a lot of traffic with these links "for free". It is very likely that Reddit would be affected by this, however it is unclear to which extent since Reddit does not have a European legal entity. Some people fear that it could lead to European courts ordering the European ISPs to block Reddit just like they are doing with ThePirateBay in several EU member states.
Article 13
This article says that Internet platforms hosting “large amounts” of user-uploaded content should take measures, such as the use of "effective content recognition technologies", to prevent copyright infringement. Those technologies should be "appropriate and proportionate".
Activists fear that these content recognition technologies, which they dub "censorship machines", will often overshoot and automatically remove lawful adaptations such as memes (oh no, not the memes!), limit freedom of speech, and will create extra barriers for start-ups using user-uploaded content.
This comment which explains a few things, is also a good read.
After visiting about half a million articles that infuriatingly fail to link any primary sources, here is the current 2001 copyright directive and the new Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market if anyone's interested in reading the actual wording. Articles 11 and 13 can be found on pages 54 and 56 respectively in the new document.
This is absolutely insane. I'm extremely worried that they believe they have the capability to enforce this, and what that might mean for the rest of the world.
It may have made it through the EU committee but still has to go through parliament. If you live inside the EU, contact your MEP ASAP!
This pattern has become very popular especially since the DMCA.
It is not about being feasible or attainable, it's about putting in place laws and the legal framework to be able to attack whatever they wish to.
Yes there is no technology to be able to fully and accurately implement the rules. It doesn't matter. These laws will be wielded by the music and media industries to take down at will whatever they want and that is the purpose. These industries know full well they can't compete with ever changing technological innovations, so they've taken a different approach. Laws like this and the DMCA enable them to control places like youtube and spotify - and whatever takes their place in the future - and to continue to control things that way rather than compete in a technological arms race which they inevitably cannot win..
It is. Every company in their right mind will stop having offices in the EU to avoid jurisdiction. Except for YouTube and Facebook nearly no company even has the ability to scan through their content automatically and doing it by hand will result in insane costs. The proposers of this law are basically asking for the European digital market to be destroyed.
If it will ever come to that, expect business to offer that feature to other businesses. There's no reason to expect that every single company will choose to develop the means in-house, even if they have the expertise or funds.
Even with the technology to scan through the data one still needs the resources for it. The amount of computing power required make sites with user generated content highly unprofitable.
I think you may be giving them too much credit.
Yeah @Gecko had a good point on that; That it's more about having the freedom to selectively enforce this, rather than actually having some real concern or expectation of eliminating a specific problem.
They steamed ahead on this way faster then I expected, I feel like hardly any organized action really had time to take root before it was over.
It's not over yet. It's been a long time coming, and it has a long way to go. Follow https://edri.org/ if you want to stay up to date.
This was all a distant threat when this shit was happening to Americans but now this all seems too real and seeing how fast this is happening I fear it will pass before we can realize it.
I feel like this is one of those situations where the EU was given an inch with GDPR and now they're taking the full mile.
We cannot give pseudo governments this kind of power! No matter if it's under the guise of user protection, or blatant censorship.
I know I'm biased, but the Reddit thread on /r/europe about it is pretty good and balanced.
This comment which explains a few things, is also a good read.
I was surprised when Julia Reda posted an update about it. She also did an AMA before the copyright reform vote.
And she used the new reddit redesign. Wow :P