12 votes

Cory Doctorow: "The EU is about to end everything that's good and pure about the internet"

9 comments

  1. [4]
    Vinver
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    EU going from the Internet rights defender to destroyer in the span of one month.

    EU going from the Internet rights defender to destroyer in the span of one month.

    8 votes
    1. clerical_terrors
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      It's almost surreal, the GDPR gave everyone a small boost of confidence that the council still had the public's interest at heart, and then this happens.

      It's almost surreal, the GDPR gave everyone a small boost of confidence that the council still had the public's interest at heart, and then this happens.

      2 votes
    2. DoudouCiceron
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      Who said that the EU worked slowly ?

      Who said that the EU worked slowly ?

      1 vote
    3. RespectMyAuthoriteh
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      I'm confused. People on Reddit have led me to believe that the EU is the most enlightened, good, virtuous, progressive governing body in the world, with the possible exception of Canada. Is it...

      I'm confused. People on Reddit have led me to believe that the EU is the most enlightened, good, virtuous, progressive governing body in the world, with the possible exception of Canada. Is it possible I've been misled?

      1 vote
  2. Silbern
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    While I think the headline is quite exaggerated, this isn't the end of the internet, I really, really hope the EU does not go through with this. With the US ending net neutrality and becoming ever...

    While I think the headline is quite exaggerated, this isn't the end of the internet, I really, really hope the EU does not go through with this. With the US ending net neutrality and becoming ever more pervasive in terms of breaking privacy, I was really hoping the EU would be willing to take up the role of promoting a free and open internet, and I think this vaguely defined copyright system is yet another give in to companies like Disney that already enjoy far too much privilege as is :/

    8 votes
  3. DoudouCiceron
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    And of course we see no major EU publications talk about this, they're all to happy to be able to profit from this once it's passed.

    And of course we see no major EU publications talk about this, they're all to happy to be able to profit from this once it's passed.

    2 votes
  4. [3]
    Mumberthrax
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    This is what happens when you let unelected politicians rule over your country. Not that the UK doesn't have ass-backward laws about the internet, but still.

    This is what happens when you let unelected politicians rule over your country. Not that the UK doesn't have ass-backward laws about the internet, but still.

    1 vote
    1. mat
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      This is a common misconception. The EU system works in a very similar way to the UK, except it's actually more representative and more democratic. The European Commission is elected, just not...

      This is a common misconception. The EU system works in a very similar way to the UK, except it's actually more representative and more democratic.

      The European Commission is elected, just not directly by the electorate - they're elected by MEPs (who are elected by the people) from all parties. By comparison, the UK Cabinet isn't elected at all, the PM just chooses her pals from her own party - and we don't even get to vote for who is PM, let alone Health Secretary or whatever. There is so little accountability in the Westminster system it would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. If you fuck up in your EC job you can lose it come the next election, whereas if you're Jeremy Hunt, arguably the worst Health Secretary in the history of the NHS, you can keep that job as long as Theresa May wants you to.

      The EC, like the Cabinet, has no power to make laws directly. Both of them can only draft bills, in the EC's case to go before the European Parliament, where they are voted on by the fully-elected MEPS. European parliamentary elections use a system of proportional representation, which makes the EU parliament significantly more democratic than Westminster. As a moderate Labour/Green supporter I have representation in the European Parliament - as do Conservatives and Kippers in my area, because more than one MEP represents each constituency. Here in the UK, because I've always lived in safe Tory seats, I've never had representation in Westminster in my life. My MP gives no fucks about what I think because he doesn't need to, his job isn't ever at risk. My Labour and Green MEPs does give a crap, because the electoral system is such that they could lose their seats relatively easily. "Safe" seats are much less safe in proportional voting systems.

      So, y'know, given the choice I'd choose the EU Parliament over Westminster every single time. The EU have a history of being somewhat more sane - occasional hiccups like this one aside (and this probably won't get through anyway).

      5 votes
    2. tyil
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      It's not like they're not trying. Besides, there's plenty of other issues in the UK concerning privacy, fair trial and immigration problems.

      It's not like they're not trying. Besides, there's plenty of other issues in the UK concerning privacy, fair trial and immigration problems.

      3 votes