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An ISP based in Texas has complained to a judge that the music industry to trying to turn internet providers into the "copyright police."

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  1. [3]
    hackergal
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    I decided to use the first sentence in the article as the title instead of using the article's actual title. I chose to do this because it's more descriptive, but more importantly, because I can't...

    I decided to use the first sentence in the article as the title instead of using the article's actual title. I chose to do this because it's more descriptive, but more importantly, because I can't stand how "slams" takes up 50% of the verbs used in headlines recently.

    Pedantic nitpicks aside, I decided to repost this article from /r/technology in the hopes of discussing it here. I've been following cases like this for the past decade or so. It's ridiculous that media companies expect ISPs to police their customers' internet traffic.

    9 votes
    1. [2]
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      1. hackergal
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        Interesting read. Thanks for the link. Glad I'm not the only one bothered by this trend.

        Interesting read. Thanks for the link. Glad I'm not the only one bothered by this trend.

        4 votes
    2. Leon
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      "slams" is awful isn't it, a terrible trope of British tabloid media and it's just so tacky.

      "slams" is awful isn't it, a terrible trope of British tabloid media and it's just so tacky.

      2 votes
  2. [14]
    sublime_aenima
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    I had my ISP stop my service and then send me a letter saying it would be permanent if I was caught again. I was grabbing a copy of a movie that I owned the DVD of, but was just too lazy to go rip...

    I had my ISP stop my service and then send me a letter saying it would be permanent if I was caught again. I was grabbing a copy of a movie that I owned the DVD of, but was just too lazy to go rip it onto my computer. The movie in question was also 10 years old at the time. It's pretty ridiculous the stranglehold these corporations have on our ISPs.

    6 votes
    1. [10]
      hackergal
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      It feels weird having a discussion where I'm on the side of the ISPs for once, but I agree completely. I had the same experience despite "pirating" on that ISP for years. Later that day (once I...

      It feels weird having a discussion where I'm on the side of the ISPs for once, but I agree completely.

      I had the same experience despite "pirating" on that ISP for years. Later that day (once I got my internet back after a lecture from my ISP over the phone) I read an article that they were basically forced to do it because, like the ISP in the article, they were sued by a media company, and the court ordered them to start babying their users by policing their traffic.

      I set up a personal VPS that I connect to and tunnel my traffic through when torrenting and now I'm back up and running. Only downside is it costs me a bit of money and the VPS can't handle the 300 mb/s connection I'm getting so it's a bit slower than it used to be.

      6 votes
      1. [7]
        Amarok
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        This is the logical outcome if ISPs are 'required' to police. The pirates will simply encrypt and VPN. Nothing will be solved except ISPs being forced to try and pry into that too.

        This is the logical outcome if ISPs are 'required' to police. The pirates will simply encrypt and VPN. Nothing will be solved except ISPs being forced to try and pry into that too.

        5 votes
        1. [6]
          hackergal
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          Try explaining that to the music industry. If they understood the technology they were fruitlessly trying to fight against, they would have embraced it 20 years ago, instead of clinging to their...

          Try explaining that to the music industry. If they understood the technology they were fruitlessly trying to fight against, they would have embraced it 20 years ago, instead of clinging to their old ways and whining to a judge about how they're the victims.

          2 votes
          1. [5]
            Amarok
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            How does that old quote go? "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

            How does that old quote go?

            "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

            4 votes
            1. [4]
              hackergal
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              But they could have made bank if they embraced the new technology from the beginning instead of spending God know how much on lobbying and lawsuits. If they just gave it an iota of thought, the'd...

              But they could have made bank if they embraced the new technology from the beginning instead of spending God know how much on lobbying and lawsuits. If they just gave it an iota of thought, the'd see that the technology doesn't have to be disruptive to the industry. You'd think most of them would have realized this around the time that iTunes came out some twenty-odd years ago.

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              1. [3]
                Amarok
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                Heh. These people don't even listen to music. It's all 'units' to them, with no context. They may as well be selling empty boxes... and at prices of $20 per, before they got nailed on racketeering...

                Heh. These people don't even listen to music. It's all 'units' to them, with no context. They may as well be selling empty boxes... and at prices of $20 per, before they got nailed on racketeering and price fixing in the early 90s. There was no way they'd ever be receptive to the online model.

                We didn't really know about the Hydra effect either, until Napster died and proved it existed. Back then the argument that you could just 'take down' the thing on this newfangled internet gadget made some kind of common sense to most people, even if it was dead wrong. :D

                3 votes
                1. [2]
                  sublime_aenima
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                  I remember when FIFA was amidst one of their scandals an article mentioned that most officials/executives never watched soccer either. It must be a side effect of so much exploitation that you no...

                  These people don't even listen to music.

                  I remember when FIFA was amidst one of their scandals an article mentioned that most officials/executives never watched soccer either. It must be a side effect of so much exploitation that you no longer enjoy it.

                  1. Soptik
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                    This. Simillar effect happened to me when I started programming, used programmable blocks in Minecraft more and more and eventually started even mod it. If you dive deep enough into something that...

                    It must be a side effect of so much exploitation that you no longer enjoy it.

                    This. Simillar effect happened to me when I started programming, used programmable blocks in Minecraft more and more and eventually started even mod it. If you dive deep enough into something that you enjoy, it'll eventually start feel boring.

                    1 vote
      2. [2]
        NessY
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        Why not just get a VPN that handles the speeds?

        Why not just get a VPN that handles the speeds?

        1. hackergal
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          Mostly cuz I can't be arsed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Mostly cuz I can't be arsed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          1 vote
    2. [3]
      PsychoPitcher
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      Just send the isp a cease and desist letter they can't spy on you.

      Just send the isp a cease and desist letter they can't spy on you.

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      1. [2]
        Soptik
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        Do you have some source for this?

        Do you have some source for this?

        1. PsychoPitcher
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          Idk my friends dad did it 10 years ago and it worked.

          Idk my friends dad did it 10 years ago and it worked.