I agree with the general thrust of the article (something will replace Android & iPhone, the only question is what)...but the comparison the author draws of "it might be Fuschia, it might be eelo"...
I agree with the general thrust of the article (something will replace Android & iPhone, the only question is what)...but the comparison the author draws of "it might be Fuschia, it might be eelo" is disappointingly apples-to-oranges.
Fuchsia is an attempt from Google to ask "what if we could redesign an OS with no backwards-compatibility constraints for i386, POSIX, and other historical baggage?". Closest comparison would be to Redox OS, an attempt to write an entire OS in Rust. If nothing else, the Fuchsia design docs are absolutely amazing and could be used as the textbook in a graduate class on operating system design.
20 years from now, it is very likely that at least one of the computers in my house runs Fuchsia, Redox, or an as-yet-uninvented OS that took inspiration from Fuchsia and Redox. The chance that in 20 years anyone will know what eelo is? Pretty slim.
I like his general idea, but the thing that kind of bugs me is; Windows is far from dead and will continue being strong into the future. It just no longer holds the top spot and that is fine. It...
I like his general idea, but the thing that kind of bugs me is;
Remember Windows?
Windows is far from dead and will continue being strong into the future. It just no longer holds the top spot and that is fine. It still beats out iOS/macOS and standard Linux by a wide margin (yes, Android and Chrome OS are both modified versions of the kernel, but they are not linux). The gaming community still heavily uses Windows and so does almost all of the business/professional world. Acting like it's something to be remembered is a joke, the only reason Andriod has such high numbers is because of phone usage, if we were just talking computing (tablets/traditional computers) it wouldn't even be a contender.
As far as statistics go, Chrome OS and Android are not Linux. They are independent operating systems made by private companies, them being built on Linux doesn't matter.
As far as statistics go, Chrome OS and Android are not Linux.
They are independent operating systems made by private companies, them being built on Linux doesn't matter.
You are looking at them way to closely. When we are talking about the statistics of used operating systems we would be looking at just the operating system as a whole, what makes up that operating...
When we are talking about the statistics of used operating systems we would be looking at just the operating system as a whole, what makes up that operating system is irrelevant for those statistics. This is why Android, Chrome OS and Linux are all considered different operating systems respectively.
I don't get it. The author is saying that we need to have a FOSS replacement for Android as if there aren't already many other linux-based mobile operating systems already out there... And then he...
I don't get it.
The author is saying that we need to have a FOSS replacement for Android as if there aren't already many other linux-based mobile operating systems already out there... And then he continues to list several linux-based mobile operating systems.
Linux is fine. It's basically the darling of the entire world of computer science. It's on giant corporate servers, your car entertainment system, and even the credit card terminals in your local grocery store.
Android has its problems, most of which are strangely unaddressed in this article, but lack of adoption is not one of them. Unless the world decides it gets tired of cell phones, Android is not going to have a lack of customers. Since the market segment is not shrinking, the only thing that could cause Android to lose mindshare is if something replaces it. As things are going now, that doesn't look like that is going to happen.
The ones they mentioned were all Android based. But to answer your question, there is Tizen, Sailfish, and PostmarketOS. WebOS was FOSS for a short time before LG bought it and put an end to that....
The ones they mentioned were all Android based. But to answer your question, there is Tizen, Sailfish, and PostmarketOS. WebOS was FOSS for a short time before LG bought it and put an end to that.
It should be noted that ARM chips are notorious for closed proprietary hardware being bundled with the SOC. That basically forces you to use a specific Linux kernel since the drivers from the chip fabs come as binary blobs.
What makes people think that Fuchsia will replace Android? It seems far more likely that it will replace Linux in Android, with limited user-facing changes, at least in the beginning.
What makes people think that Fuchsia will replace Android? It seems far more likely that it will replace Linux in Android, with limited user-facing changes, at least in the beginning.
Don't worry, developers will find ways to slow them down.
I agree with the general thrust of the article (something will replace Android & iPhone, the only question is what)...but the comparison the author draws of "it might be Fuschia, it might be eelo" is disappointingly apples-to-oranges.
Fuchsia is an attempt from Google to ask "what if we could redesign an OS with no backwards-compatibility constraints for i386, POSIX, and other historical baggage?". Closest comparison would be to Redox OS, an attempt to write an entire OS in Rust. If nothing else, the Fuchsia design docs are absolutely amazing and could be used as the textbook in a graduate class on operating system design.
eelo or /e/ or whatever we're calling it this week...is a fork of LineageOS / CyanogenMod that they install onto phone hardware that someone else built and made Android-compatible.
20 years from now, it is very likely that at least one of the computers in my house runs Fuchsia, Redox, or an as-yet-uninvented OS that took inspiration from Fuchsia and Redox. The chance that in 20 years anyone will know what eelo is? Pretty slim.
I like his general idea, but the thing that kind of bugs me is;
Windows is far from dead and will continue being strong into the future. It just no longer holds the top spot and that is fine. It still beats out iOS/macOS and standard Linux by a wide margin (yes, Android and Chrome OS are both modified versions of the kernel, but they are not linux). The gaming community still heavily uses Windows and so does almost all of the business/professional world. Acting like it's something to be remembered is a joke, the only reason Andriod has such high numbers is because of phone usage, if we were just talking computing (tablets/traditional computers) it wouldn't even be a contender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
As far as statistics go, Chrome OS and Android are not Linux.
They are independent operating systems made by private companies, them being built on Linux doesn't matter.
You are looking at them way to closely.
When we are talking about the statistics of used operating systems we would be looking at just the operating system as a whole, what makes up that operating system is irrelevant for those statistics. This is why Android, Chrome OS and Linux are all considered different operating systems respectively.
Like I already said.
Not important, but did you mean to say iOS? Would it not be macOS?
Most statistics group Mac OS and iOS together (approx 1.3 bil btw) so I meant both, but was too lazy to type out both.
I fixed it.
I don't get it.
The author is saying that we need to have a FOSS replacement for Android as if there aren't already many other linux-based mobile operating systems already out there... And then he continues to list several linux-based mobile operating systems.
Linux is fine. It's basically the darling of the entire world of computer science. It's on giant corporate servers, your car entertainment system, and even the credit card terminals in your local grocery store.
Android has its problems, most of which are strangely unaddressed in this article, but lack of adoption is not one of them. Unless the world decides it gets tired of cell phones, Android is not going to have a lack of customers. Since the market segment is not shrinking, the only thing that could cause Android to lose mindshare is if something replaces it. As things are going now, that doesn't look like that is going to happen.
What sort of FOSS mobile operating systems are out there that aren't Android based?
The ones they mentioned were all Android based. But to answer your question, there is Tizen, Sailfish, and PostmarketOS. WebOS was FOSS for a short time before LG bought it and put an end to that.
It should be noted that ARM chips are notorious for closed proprietary hardware being bundled with the SOC. That basically forces you to use a specific Linux kernel since the drivers from the chip fabs come as binary blobs.
What makes people think that Fuchsia will replace Android? It seems far more likely that it will replace Linux in Android, with limited user-facing changes, at least in the beginning.