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DRM for chargers? Google Pixel 3 locks fast Qi charging to its own $79 stand

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  1. [4]
    meghan
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    Wow. So much for Android being open..

    Wow. So much for Android being open..

    15 votes
    1. [2]
      0F0_Simplex
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      If I recall correctly, Android flagship phones haven't even pretended to be open for a while now. I think every Samsung past the Galaxy 7 has had it's bootloader locked, and some others even...

      If I recall correctly, Android flagship phones haven't even pretended to be open for a while now. I think every Samsung past the Galaxy 7 has had it's bootloader locked, and some others even before that.

      13 votes
      1. meghan
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        I've never had any hope for openness with Samsung. But this, coupled with the fee to use the play store in the EU, it's clear google doesn't care about openness anymore, at least not nearly in...

        I've never had any hope for openness with Samsung. But this, coupled with the fee to use the play store in the EU, it's clear google doesn't care about openness anymore, at least not nearly in they way they did at the inception of aosp.

        5 votes
    2. spctrvl
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      Tivoization, coming now to a (formerly) general purpose computer near you.

      Tivoization, coming now to a (formerly) general purpose computer near you.

      7 votes
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    Akir
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    Wow, the follow up actually made me even more upset. So much for following standards, Google.

    Wow, the follow up actually made me even more upset. So much for following standards, Google.

    7 votes
    1. [2]
      freestylesno
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      Agreed this seems a bit backwards from what Google used to push of open stnadards. For example they used the USB rapid charging spec. And not Quick Charge. Unfortunately this reflects their track...

      Agreed this seems a bit backwards from what Google used to push of open stnadards. For example they used the USB rapid charging spec. And not Quick Charge. Unfortunately this reflects their track record over the last few years. Nexus to Pixel line being an example.

      2 votes
      1. Octofox
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        Its the typical "Use open standards while you are behind and then switch to proprietary". Google phones are one of the big name premium brands like Apple and Samsung and they are just as horrible.

        Its the typical "Use open standards while you are behind and then switch to proprietary". Google phones are one of the big name premium brands like Apple and Samsung and they are just as horrible.

        4 votes
  3. Jedi
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    This is disingenuous. There is a Qi standard that allows charging speeds of 5W, on all wireless chargers Google follows this standard. For their Pixel Stand they use a proprietary method to get...

    This is disingenuous.

    There is a Qi standard that allows charging speeds of 5W, on all wireless chargers Google follows this standard. For their Pixel Stand they use a proprietary method to get 10W charging.

    There are wireless fast-chargers that can go above 5W, but they follow Samsung's proprietary method and would not work on the Pixel 3.

    No, they're not "limiting" speeds, they're following the standard.

    1 vote
  4. [2]
    DanBC
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    Isn't the real problem that charging is now so complex that it's now possible for a charger to brick your device, that cables are frequently not built to spec, and that low quality chargers at...

    Isn't the real problem that charging is now so complex that it's now possible for a charger to brick your device, that cables are frequently not built to spec, and that low quality chargers at these levels of current pose a fire risk?

    1 vote
    1. Fdashstop
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      No, that's just another problem. Qi devices all have a standard that they have to meet before being branded as a Qi device

      No, that's just another problem. Qi devices all have a standard that they have to meet before being branded as a Qi device

      3 votes
  5. clone1
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    I know this site is for complex discussion and all that but this is just bullshit.

    I know this site is for complex discussion and all that but this is just bullshit.

    2 votes
  6. [3]
    dblohm7
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    Android is shit. My next device will be an iPhone.

    Android is shit. My next device will be an iPhone.

    1. [2]
      apoctr
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      I feel you. Personally I'm in the camp of love Android, hate Google, but it's an abusive relationship and Android has been getting worse. Don't really like the locked down or proprietary nature of...

      I feel you. Personally I'm in the camp of love Android, hate Google, but it's an abusive relationship and Android has been getting worse. Don't really like the locked down or proprietary nature of iPhones though, so for now I'm stuck with Android. Can't wait for the Librem 5 to come out, might be exactly what I'm looking for.

      2 votes
      1. MacDolanFarms
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        As someone in a similar position, switching to Lineage OS has been great compared to the carrier bloat-filled Android I was using before.

        As someone in a similar position, switching to Lineage OS has been great compared to the carrier bloat-filled Android I was using before.

        1 vote