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America’s Cities Are Running on Software From the ’80s

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    onyxleopard
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    I thought it was super interesting that monetary budgets for cloud vs local compute are different, thus making cloud compute a non-starter. I think there are other practical reasons why...

    I thought it was super interesting that monetary budgets for cloud vs local compute are different, thus making cloud compute a non-starter. I think there are other practical reasons why governments should only be operating in private clouds, separated from whatever other consumers are doing. I know Amazon already runs private cloud infrastructure for the federal government, so I have to imagine this has been considered. I think it would be best if local governments ran software on hardware that they owned and controlled entirely, but failing that, the municipalities and states should not be running on consumer-grade services. There really should be a hard firewall between certain, internal government operations and the internet, IMO.

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      ThatFanficGuy
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      By "hard firewall", what do you mean?

      By "hard firewall", what do you mean?

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        onyxleopard
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        Like an air gap, plus physical security for the buildings housing the servers. Only authorized people should have network/physical access.

        Like an air gap, plus physical security for the buildings housing the servers. Only authorized people should have network/physical access.

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          ThatFanficGuy
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          Right, so, rather than a strong software firewall, you mean a physical restriction of access – is that right? I've heard about it being discussed around working in highly-secret projects – mostly...

          Right, so, rather than a strong software firewall, you mean a physical restriction of access – is that right?

          I've heard about it being discussed around working in highly-secret projects – mostly fictional ones. Sounds like a great idea.

          Then again, Edward Snowden just slotted in a USB drive and took off soon after.

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          1. onyxleopard
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            Yeah, I don’t mean firewall in the IT/networking sense, I mean in the original sense of a physical separation for containment purposes.

            Yeah, I don’t mean firewall in the IT/networking sense, I mean in the original sense of a physical separation for containment purposes.

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  2. hungariantoast
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    This is probably something that's been beaten to death before and is a well known fact for many users here, but the specific examples provided and the costs to replace them was very interesting, I...

    This is probably something that's been beaten to death before and is a well known fact for many users here, but the specific examples provided and the costs to replace them was very interesting, I thought.

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  3. Silbern
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    Hey OP, this is super minor and I'm not sure if this is the right place to say so, but I noticed one of your tags is messed up, the old software one. Just thought I'd let you know! :) (And great...

    Hey OP, this is super minor and I'm not sure if this is the right place to say so, but I noticed one of your tags is messed up, the old software one. Just thought I'd let you know! :) (And great story btw! Guess there's still room for COBOL programmers yet haha)

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