While your points are true, I'd like to point out that there is a $300k bounty if you manage to crack their crypto. It's been there for quite some time and nobody's claimed it yet. As for Signal,...
While your points are true, I'd like to point out that there is a $300k bounty if you manage to crack their crypto. It's been there for quite some time and nobody's claimed it yet.
As for Signal, my biggest grip with it is the extremely poor desktop app it has. Compare that to Telegram with its native Qt desktop app that is fast as it can be and has the same features as the mobile one.
no, actually that should be a bad idea. Inventing new crypto systems makes the probability for flaws higher. You should use known and well researched ones.
no, actually that should be a bad idea. Inventing new crypto systems makes the probability for flaws higher. You should use known and well researched ones.
I have also transitioned my family to using Signal. I really wish they would build a native toolkit desktop client but it seems to be the best platform currently available. I'm keeping an eye on...
I have also transitioned my family to using Signal. I really wish they would build a native toolkit desktop client but it seems to be the best platform currently available. I'm keeping an eye on Matrix but it's unreasonable to expect people to jump from service to service at my whim every 6 months.
In addition to the excellent points deing raised, Telegram's support is entirely volunteer. This means that if something goes wrong, you may not get any response from their support at all. I had...
In addition to the excellent points deing raised, Telegram's support is entirely volunteer. This means that if something goes wrong, you may not get any response from their support at all. I had an issue with moving phone numbers and they totally ignored me (both on their official support and on their twitter, when I still had a twitter). In addition, the only official way of reaching support is... on Telegram. So, yeah. You can hopefully see the problem with that.
Yes, the initial adoption is always though. There was a recent article that infered that you only need to convince 25% to reach a majority. Focus on convincing 25% of the people in the group, you...
Yes, the initial adoption is always though. There was a recent article that infered that you only need to convince 25% to reach a majority. Focus on convincing 25% of the people in the group, you might be lucky.
I have convinced a few ppl to use signal, but I haven't been very lucky when it comes to matrix. Hopefully better clients (both desktop and mobile) will change that.
I'm in the same camp as you, all my contacts use Facebook and WhatsApp. I only have success convincing my close friends giving Telegram a chance, not for privacy but convenience (gifs, stickers,...
I'm in the same camp as you, all my contacts use Facebook and WhatsApp. I only have success convincing my close friends giving Telegram a chance, not for privacy but convenience (gifs, stickers, bots). At the end they still rather use WhatsApp, non-tech people will always choose convenience over privacy. Tech people will always recommend Signal but Signal lacks many features non-tech people rather choose to than privacy.
I'm having the same problem with my fiancee and messenger. I want to switch to XMPP but when I asked what she thought if I quit using Messenger she said, "Well I'll just email or text you then."
I'm having the same problem with my fiancee and messenger. I want to switch to XMPP but when I asked what she thought if I quit using Messenger she said, "Well I'll just email or text you then."
I know! I mean, it's also one extra account, but it's not like we don't sign up for new accounts every day too. It's like, if everyone could just hop over at once, it'd be so much easier.
I know! I mean, it's also one extra account, but it's not like we don't sign up for new accounts every day too. It's like, if everyone could just hop over at once, it'd be so much easier.
Durov: "I see 3 million new users signed up for Telegram within the last 24 hours.
Good. We have true privacy and unlimited space for everyone."
While your points are true, I'd like to point out that there is a $300k bounty if you manage to crack their crypto. It's been there for quite some time and nobody's claimed it yet.
As for Signal, my biggest grip with it is the extremely poor desktop app it has. Compare that to Telegram with its native Qt desktop app that is fast as it can be and has the same features as the mobile one.
Is there at least a good reason for them making their own encryption?
no, actually that should be a bad idea. Inventing new crypto systems makes the probability for flaws higher. You should use known and well researched ones.
I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge if their crypto was useful or not but, at the same time, didn't Signal invent its own crypto as well ?
I have also transitioned my family to using Signal. I really wish they would build a native toolkit desktop client but it seems to be the best platform currently available. I'm keeping an eye on Matrix but it's unreasonable to expect people to jump from service to service at my whim every 6 months.
In addition to the excellent points deing raised, Telegram's support is entirely volunteer. This means that if something goes wrong, you may not get any response from their support at all. I had an issue with moving phone numbers and they totally ignored me (both on their official support and on their twitter, when I still had a twitter). In addition, the only official way of reaching support is... on Telegram. So, yeah. You can hopefully see the problem with that.
I suggest matrix.org or signal, preferably matrix.
Yes, the initial adoption is always though. There was a recent article that infered that you only need to convince 25% to reach a majority. Focus on convincing 25% of the people in the group, you might be lucky.
I have convinced a few ppl to use signal, but I haven't been very lucky when it comes to matrix. Hopefully better clients (both desktop and mobile) will change that.
I'm in the same camp as you, all my contacts use Facebook and WhatsApp. I only have success convincing my close friends giving Telegram a chance, not for privacy but convenience (gifs, stickers, bots). At the end they still rather use WhatsApp, non-tech people will always choose convenience over privacy. Tech people will always recommend Signal but Signal lacks many features non-tech people rather choose to than privacy.
I'm having the same problem with my fiancee and messenger. I want to switch to XMPP but when I asked what she thought if I quit using Messenger she said, "Well I'll just email or text you then."
I'm always surprised how people are so bothered by installing one extra app. It's not like it's without benefits.
Exactly. Yet they have no problem installing an app for every website they visit.
I know! I mean, it's also one extra account, but it's not like we don't sign up for new accounts every day too. It's like, if everyone could just hop over at once, it'd be so much easier.