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Why is Instagram deleting the accounts of hundreds of porn stars?

21 comments

  1. [2]
    ThatFanficGuy
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    All this nonsense around making pornstars' lives more difficult lately makes me think that someone gave someone insecure about their sexuality way too much power. This shit would never happen to a...

    All this nonsense around making pornstars' lives more difficult lately makes me think that someone gave someone insecure about their sexuality way too much power.

    This shit would never happen to a group less-marginalized. Politicians that consistently lie don't get this treatment. Corrupt police officers don't get this treatment. Lawyers that side with the near-monopolies drowing the world don't get this treatment. Hell, even the men and women that whore themselves out for attention on Instagram – just a sentence away – don't get this treatment.

    No one with any power will ever get this treatment.

    31 votes
    1. Odysseus
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      I wonder if this has to do with advertisers. Most companies won't make moves like this unless it was somehow negatively affecting their bottom line.

      I wonder if this has to do with advertisers. Most companies won't make moves like this unless it was somehow negatively affecting their bottom line.

      5 votes
  2. NaraVara
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    Somehow I don’t expect this to get a bunch of “is cancel culture out of control?” hand-wringing from the media. . .

    Somehow I don’t expect this to get a bunch of “is cancel culture out of control?” hand-wringing from the media. . .

    19 votes
  3. Adam_Black_Arts
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    IG is doing this to poledancers as well, which is ridiculous.

    IG is doing this to poledancers as well, which is ridiculous.

    10 votes
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    Grand0rbiter
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    Weird. A lot of instathots who put their e-mails on the profile does the same thing as porn actress, but without cameras.

    Weird. A lot of instathots who put their e-mails on the profile does the same thing as porn actress, but without cameras.

    7 votes
    1. Loire
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      You can just call then escorts.

      does the same thing as porn actress, but without cameras

      You can just call then escorts.

      4 votes
    2. [6]
      NaraVara
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      I'm not familiar with this term?

      instathots

      I'm not familiar with this term?

      1. [2]
        jtvjan
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        Instagram + thot. Thot (that hoe over there) is derogatory slang meaning "promiscuous woman". It refers to women that post suggestive photos of themselves on Instagram.

        Instagram + thot. Thot (that hoe over there) is derogatory slang meaning "promiscuous woman". It refers to women that post suggestive photos of themselves on Instagram.

        5 votes
      2. [3]
        Grand0rbiter
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        Women on instagram that are there to just show their bodies. You see a lot of them on boats, hotels, parties, working out. They often put their e-mail on the profile.

        Women on instagram that are there to just show their bodies. You see a lot of them on boats, hotels, parties, working out. They often put their e-mail on the profile.

        4 votes
        1. [2]
          ThatFanficGuy
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          Why do they put their email address on the profile? Is it to get invited somewhere?

          Why do they put their email address on the profile? Is it to get invited somewhere?

          2 votes
          1. Grand0rbiter
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            To make online friends! They are escorts

            To make online friends!

            They are escorts

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    Rez
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    This is another example of how algorithmic moderating at scale fails. Too many platforms have skated by on having enough reports automatically trigger action against an account or a post with...

    This is another example of how algorithmic moderating at scale fails. Too many platforms have skated by on having enough reports automatically trigger action against an account or a post with insufficient human oversight governing the process. People are increasingly learning how to probe opaque algorithms and weaponizing them to deplatform or otherwise target the people (usually women and minorities) of their choice.

    5 votes
    1. [4]
      SunSpotter
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      People may be weaponizing the algorithm, but I find it hard to believe issues like this fly completely under their radar. I'm pretty sure major companies are allowing stuff like this to happen...

      People may be weaponizing the algorithm, but I find it hard to believe issues like this fly completely under their radar.

      I'm pretty sure major companies are allowing stuff like this to happen because:
      A) They perceive anything NSFW or NSFW adjacent to be harder to moderate (see: Tumblr)

      B) Advertisers have started demanding their ad spaces be ruthlessly family friendly, at the expense of even educational content (see: YouTube).

      4 votes
      1. NaraVara
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        Advertisers are a big part of it, but I think another driver is FOSTA/SESTA which has made companies terrified of even having a whiff of facilitating sex work. We've adopted what is basically War...

        Advertisers are a big part of it, but I think another driver is FOSTA/SESTA which has made companies terrified of even having a whiff of facilitating sex work. We've adopted what is basically War on Drugs logic for human trafficking, pretending that going after any association with it is automatically just as bad as the worst possible aspect of it.

        5 votes
      2. [2]
        NoblePath
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        Wonder why advertisers are squeamish about this all of a sudden?

        Wonder why advertisers are squeamish about this all of a sudden?

        1 vote
        1. ThatFanficGuy
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          I'm going to make a few guesses here. Y'all are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong about anything. The early days of the Internet were akin to the real-world Wild West: it wasn't exactly...

          I'm going to make a few guesses here. Y'all are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong about anything.

          The early days of the Internet were akin to the real-world Wild West: it wasn't exactly unregulated, but it far from the stable place we're in today. (By "stable" I mean "you mostly know what rules govern these lands".) It was getting more and more popular, but advertisers had little ground of their own to ask – let alone demand for some level of regulation.

          As time went on, a few things happened:

          1. the Internet got a lot more stable, with a few central hubs (Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube et al.) that host a whole load of people
          2. studies in human psychology were massively aided by (A) an access to the aformentioned whole load of people, (B) developments in machine learning, (C) a desire to make use of the new technology that arose from A and B
          3. advertisers got a clear sense that a lot of people spend a lot of time online, so this is where gold lies

          This is, roughly, how ads got power over a user.

          Since there's a staggering lack of sexual education in the modern world – especially in the more-online countries, especially in the US – there's a staggering amount of fear and animosity towards all things sexual from a lot of people, especially those with little familiarity with the Internet that get their ideas from similarly-scared people who open their mouths a little more often.

          In other words: ads make more money the more people they reach, and some people are uncomfortable around The Sex™ (even the same people that masturbate quietly in their rooms watching girls 20 years their junior being repeatedly stricken with a whip while shackled just tightly enough that they can't move too far from said whip), so the less of The Sex™ there is on the Internet, theoretically, the more ads can be served.

          4 votes
  6. [4]
    Kuromantis
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    This is awful. I'm all for separating SFW and NSFW content and my ideal solution would be for porn actors & e-girls to have their own social media platform just to talk about their work and...

    This is awful. I'm all for separating SFW and NSFW content and my ideal solution would be for porn actors & e-girls to have their own social media platform just to talk about their work and themselves, this is going way overboard, and is practically just throwing porn actresses off the bus for no reason, while the egirls I just mentioned usually go on without a hitch.

    2 votes
    1. [3]
      ThatFanficGuy
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      Lemme clarify something for myself: is Belle Delphine an e-girl?

      Lemme clarify something for myself: is Belle Delphine an e-girl?

      1 vote
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        Kuromantis
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        Yes.

        Yes.

        1 vote
        1. ThatFanficGuy
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          Then my vague idea of what makes an e-girl is confirmed. Thank you.

          Then my vague idea of what makes an e-girl is confirmed. Thank you.

          1 vote