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De-Googling my life – two years on

25 comments

  1. [13]
    weystrom
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    Youtube is easy, get an RSS feed of your subscribtions, use mpv + youtube-dl to stream the links. On iPhone it's harder, but on Android you could use NewPipe, which basically does the same thing.

    Youtube is easy, get an RSS feed of your subscribtions, use mpv + youtube-dl to stream the links.

    On iPhone it's harder, but on Android you could use NewPipe, which basically does the same thing.

    8 votes
    1. suspended
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      youtube-dl is one of the best tools I've ever experienced. Can't praise it enough!

      youtube-dl is one of the best tools I've ever experienced. Can't praise it enough!

      7 votes
    2. [8]
      rkcr
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      Is that really getting rid of YouTube, though? That's more like using it through a different client.

      Is that really getting rid of YouTube, though? That's more like using it through a different client.

      7 votes
      1. [6]
        vivaria
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        Depends on what someone means by getting rid of YouTube, I guess... YouTube's a bit weird cause it's a platform with exclusive content. With Gmail, at least you can replace it with an equivalent...

        Depends on what someone means by getting rid of YouTube, I guess...

        YouTube's a bit weird cause it's a platform with exclusive content. With Gmail, at least you can replace it with an equivalent service. With YouTube, though, if you like creators on the platform, you've gotta interact with YouTube somehow if you wanna see them. If it really is too hard to give up the content you like, then the best you can do is settle for a compromise.

        IIRC youtube-dl is a way to get video files without actually connecting a browser to the website itself... in that sense, you would avoid the analytics part, right?

        8 votes
        1. ruspaceni
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          If i were to make that switch, I'd also enjoy the lack of content force-feeding by the algo. I clicked on a scene from Sillicon Valley last week and am still getting "Best of Jared S1-5" kind of...

          If i were to make that switch, I'd also enjoy the lack of content force-feeding by the algo.

          I clicked on a scene from Sillicon Valley last week and am still getting "Best of Jared S1-5" kind of videos. Yeah, I can hit "not interested" but how many times has that actually worked for you? I just get "best of Richard" or the next suggestion from the algo.

          I really miss the days of related videos as opposed to suggested videos, and bc there's probably not a way to bring back the old ways - cutting out the sidebar/homepage/algo as much as possible just sounds like a no-brainer.

          Once you've found some channels, being able to enjoy it in peace sounds nice.

          4 votes
        2. [4]
          Wes
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          If that is the concern, why not just block the analytics? I'm pretty sure uBlock Origin blocks google-analytics.com by default.

          If that is the concern, why not just block the analytics? I'm pretty sure uBlock Origin blocks google-analytics.com by default.

          1 vote
          1. [3]
            vivaria
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            Hmm... I don't really know enough about the subject to answer. I'll take your word for it! @ruspanceni brings up a good point in terms of the ickiness of the interface / user experience though!

            Hmm... I don't really know enough about the subject to answer. I'll take your word for it!

            @ruspanceni brings up a good point in terms of the ickiness of the interface / user experience though!

            3 votes
            1. [2]
              Wes
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              Definitely. I don't love the attempt to funnel us into watching more videos. I turned off auto-play the day it was introduced, and I don't think I've ever clicked a video after finishing what I...

              Definitely. I don't love the attempt to funnel us into watching more videos. I turned off auto-play the day it was introduced, and I don't think I've ever clicked a video after finishing what I was watching.

              I know that's not typical though. Sometimes I forget that people let the recommendation engine take them on a journey. I guess I see Youtube more as a means to an end than an entertainment platform.

              3 votes
              1. joplin
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                Same here on not clicking any videos when I'm done. I don't have an account so I have to manually turn off autoplay every time I go to the site, though.

                Same here on not clicking any videos when I'm done. I don't have an account so I have to manually turn off autoplay every time I go to the site, though.

      2. weystrom
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        I see your point, but I think it's good enough, no algorithm, stripped down analytics, no ads No more mindlessly browsing suggested videos, no giving cookies to Google, just raw entertainment...

        I see your point, but I think it's good enough, no algorithm, stripped down analytics, no ads

        No more mindlessly browsing suggested videos, no giving cookies to Google, just raw entertainment content.

        It's a decent solution in my view.

        4 votes
    3. [3]
      esckroh
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      I use https://invidio.us on desktop and mobile. It's open source. Unfortunately it goes down a lot.

      I use https://invidio.us on desktop and mobile. It's open source. Unfortunately it goes down a lot.

      5 votes
      1. Whom
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        Here's an extension which automatically redirects youtube links to it (as well as twitter links to nitter, which is the same kind of thing). You can configure what instance it redirects to, as well.

        Here's an extension which automatically redirects youtube links to it (as well as twitter links to nitter, which is the same kind of thing).

        You can configure what instance it redirects to, as well.

        5 votes
      2. Durallet
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        There are alternative public instances which usually work when the main one is blocked by Google.

        There are alternative public instances which usually work when the main one is blocked by Google.

        1 vote
  2. [12]
    monado
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    I've been looking for an alternative to YouTube as well, somewhere I can post my videos in the future if YouTube goes bad. something like LBRY seems to float my boat, but since it's on a...

    I've been looking for an alternative to YouTube as well, somewhere I can post my videos in the future if YouTube goes bad. something like LBRY seems to float my boat, but since it's on a blockchain you can't delete videos, which is kind of stupid.

    2 votes
    1. [4]
      skybrian
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      Vimeo? Haven't used them lately but I saw some nice videos there.

      Vimeo? Haven't used them lately but I saw some nice videos there.

      5 votes
      1. joplin
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        My spouse has used Vimeo and it has worked just fine for her.

        My spouse has used Vimeo and it has worked just fine for her.

        4 votes
      2. moocow1452
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        Vimeo has had issues for SFDebris, who uses a ton of bandwidth on their service and they just priced him out. So, I guess it's fine if you're not too successful.

        Vimeo has had issues for SFDebris, who uses a ton of bandwidth on their service and they just priced him out. So, I guess it's fine if you're not too successful.

        3 votes
    2. [7]
      PopeRigby
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      I used to think LBRY was cool until I saw this post on their official blog. Kind of turned me off.

      I used to think LBRY was cool until I saw this post on their official blog. Kind of turned me off.

      5 votes
      1. [2]
        hungariantoast
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        Ew yeah, if you actually go a bit deeper and check out the YouTube channel or subreddit for the person they're praising in that blog post, it becomes pretty apparent it's some stereotypical Gamer...

        Ew yeah, if you actually go a bit deeper and check out the YouTube channel or subreddit for the person they're praising in that blog post, it becomes pretty apparent it's some stereotypical Gamer stuff.

        Which really is not that surprising. These upstart YouTube alternatives almost always end up hosting a lot of the alt-right pipeline content that even YouTube manages to remove from its platform.

        6 votes
        1. vivaria
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          Oh god, The Quartering... there's an entire off-topic tangent to be had about that dumpster fire of an alt-right drama-fest. Do not recommend you go down that rabbit hole... The footnote on the...

          Oh god, The Quartering... there's an entire off-topic tangent to be had about that dumpster fire of an alt-right drama-fest. Do not recommend you go down that rabbit hole...

          The footnote on the bottom should give you a hint.

          Jeremy has faced censorship and exclusion for speaking his mind in the past.

          No, you turd-noggin! You got banned from the entire game of MTG because you're a gigantic douche-canoe who harassed a cosplayer by sic'ing your followers on her!

          4 votes
      2. JXM
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        Wow. That's awful. I only really know it from EEVBlog mentioning it but if that's the kind of stuff their highlighting, I'm not interested.

        Wow. That's awful. I only really know it from EEVBlog mentioning it but if that's the kind of stuff their highlighting, I'm not interested.

        3 votes
      3. [3]
        monado
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        doesn't seem all to professional, but what is so bad about this?

        doesn't seem all to professional, but what is so bad about this?

        1 vote
        1. [2]
          cfabbro
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          The link from vivaria's comment above explains: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/jeremy-hambly-magic-the-gathering-harassment-ban
          2 votes
          1. monado
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            bleh, I can see the other point of view here, but lack of content control is why a lot of these alternatives to YouTube go down the shitter. Oh well, guess we'll have to find something else....

            bleh, I can see the other point of view here, but lack of content control is why a lot of these alternatives to YouTube go down the shitter. Oh well, guess we'll have to find something else.

            regarding youtube-dl

            Yes, as someone who uses Unix-Like OS's on a daily basis, youtube-dl is an integral tool for me. I think its a good solution, and people have written standalone YouTube clients for Linux that I assume take advantage of it. mpv is also able to use youtube-dl to stream content from a variety of sites, the problem for me comes with finding links. I'm pretty sure that qutebrowser had a feature to open YouTube links in mpv but I'm not too sure.