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How trolls on Reddit try to manipulate you (Disinformation and how we beat it)

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  1. nacho
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    How much did reddit pay to get all this positive PR on "all the things they're doing" when the admins essentially don't enforce any but the most basic rules on the site, like resolving copyright...

    How much did reddit pay to get all this positive PR on "all the things they're doing" when the admins essentially don't enforce any but the most basic rules on the site, like resolving copyright reports and child pornography reports.

    It's always so disheartening to see that even those who're researchers or "experts" on online sites are so far removed from the actual users of those sites they have no idea what the context is, and what's actually happening.

    Like all those investors, it's easy to believe all those fancy words being thrown at you by these large companies and their really professional press teams. They also insulate themselves so much and comment so rarely, that people go way too far just to get a comment and then don't critically evaluate those comments, but just regurgitate them.


    To use just one example: I'd much rather have those "surveillance cameras on every street corner" that admins enforcing sitewide rules would somehow be (wut?), than having the "neighborhood watch" of random internet strangers as mods removing whatever at their own discretion without any oversight.

    Reddit removing 30 million obvious "buy my t-shirt [link]" comments and other super-mega-obvious spam automatically every 3 months isn't anywhere near "proactively dealing with disinformation" or "walking a fine line of removing too much"


    The tips he has for interacting with people online, deescalating, calling out attacks on random internet strangers rather than discussing whatever topic is at hand and so forth are good pieces of advice.

    But the warped image of how reddit is, and how well the admins are doing their job is dangerous. It normalizes an extremely toxic environment that is the first contribution and interaction millions of young people have with public discourse.

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    tindall
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    Ever since his first videos on content manipulation and the infamous selfawarewolf "this video is a weapon" moment, SED has been nothing but propaganda. It's too bad, he was one of the least...

    Ever since his first videos on content manipulation and the infamous selfawarewolf "this video is a weapon" moment, SED has been nothing but propaganda. It's too bad, he was one of the least annoying guntube/engitube hybrid channels.

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      Adys
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      Elaborate? I have no idea what you're talking about, and I feel fairly in touch with these types of things...

      Elaborate? I have no idea what you're talking about, and I feel fairly in touch with these types of things...

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      1. tindall
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        Well, sometime last year (Mar 3, 2019) he published a video on multi-domain warfare, discussing cyber domain operations in particular. During the video, there's a moment where the general he's...

        Well, sometime last year (Mar 3, 2019) he published a video on multi-domain warfare, discussing cyber domain operations in particular. During the video, there's a moment where the general he's interviewing says, "Even this video is a weapon." And Dustin goes on a whole monologue based on that, and either doesn't realize or doesn't choose to discuss that the exact tactics he will go on to talk about in the rest of his series on social media manipulation are at play in that very video.

        Since then, he's made about a half and half mix of "regular" SED videos and obvious sponsored content, with the videos featuring other YouTubers or based on specific companies (like ULA) or products doing much better. His production values have improved and his scripts sound different (at least to me). And now he's diving back into obvious propaganda.

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  3. mrbig
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    Maybe don´t use Reddit for anything serious...

    Maybe don´t use Reddit for anything serious...