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Seventeen-year-old in Tampa, Florida arrested and accused of "masterminding" the compromises of prominent Twitter accounts on July 15, charged with thirty felonies

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    arghdos
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    And... the blame for that lays solely on 17 l33t hax0rs, eh?

    “This could have had a massive, massive amount of money stolen from people, it could have destabilized financial markets within America and across the globe; because he had access to powerful politicians’ Twitter accounts, he could have undermined politics as well as international diplomacy,” said Warren.

    And... the blame for that lays solely on 17 l33t hax0rs, eh?

    21 votes
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        AugustusFerdinand
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        Governments and their officials shouldn't be communicating via twitter at all. Twitter is not conducive to actual discourse, it's very nature of limiting the amount that can be said at once is...

        Governments and their officials shouldn't be communicating via twitter at all. Twitter is not conducive to actual discourse, it's very nature of limiting the amount that can be said at once is directly detrimental to society and has only furthered the soundbite/only-reads-the-headline micro-attention span of the general public. Nearly no idea can be adequately explained in the character limit which also hampers rebuttals and clarifications.

        There is simply nothing positive about politicians being on social media.

        20 votes
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            AugustusFerdinand
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            Fair point. Although I would argue that such live interaction can be done on their own website just as effectively. I watch and participate in my local city council meetings remotely and have done...

            Fair point.

            Although I would argue that such live interaction can be done on their own website just as effectively. I watch and participate in my local city council meetings remotely and have done so for years on a call in basis, since April I have been able to do so on a video basis as well if I so choose. Being that any public interaction by a politician should be a matter of record and have no way of being deleted or behind a paywall/login, her use of instagram runs counter to an open government model. That video has been uploaded to youtube by a 3rd party, I cannot access it on instagram (if it's still there) without creating an account, this puts artificial barriers to public information in place. I like AOC, she's not my rep, but instagram is still the wrong place to be conducting that.

            7 votes
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              Greg
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              This raises some really interesting questions. My first instinct is to agree, but then I wonder if that would be idealism at the expense of pragmatism. Is it better for the politician to interact...

              This raises some really interesting questions. My first instinct is to agree, but then I wonder if that would be idealism at the expense of pragmatism.

              Is it better for the politician to interact with 50 people on a platform that's fully open, or with 50,000 on a platform that's nominally more closed?

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              1. AugustusFerdinand
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                I say fully open and permanent vs nominally closed and with potential for deletion/removal. Today it's ad driven generally anonymous social media, tomorrow it's paywalled and requires photo...

                I say fully open and permanent vs nominally closed and with potential for deletion/removal. Today it's ad driven generally anonymous social media, tomorrow it's paywalled and requires photo identity verification.

                5 votes
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              1. AugustusFerdinand
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                I'm of the opinion that, much like police, politicians should also be wearing body cams at all times. Now, if there's a scenario where they're merely out and about doing their normal life stuff,...

                A camera isn't necessarily rolling the entire time a politician shows solidarity among a protest, and a stenographer isn't present every time a politician bumps into someone on the street.

                I'm of the opinion that, much like police, politicians should also be wearing body cams at all times. Now, if there's a scenario where they're merely out and about doing their normal life stuff, they shouldn't necessarily be wearing it, but if approached they should make no comments, statements, or answer questions about policy or position.

                "How's your day going senator?" is fine to answer "What do you think about allowing dolphins to vote?" is not.

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        1. whbboyd
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          This isn't a good analogy, as your house is not Twitter and you have not been entrusted with the personal information of millions of people, including politicians, corporate executives, and others...

          This isn't a good analogy, as your house is not Twitter and you have not been entrusted with the personal information of millions of people, including politicians, corporate executives, and others which could cause significant upheaval if misused. They do have a duty to secure their systems, which they failed utterly and miserably.

          8 votes
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    monarda
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    ... It wasn't worse, maybe because he wasn't actually an adult?

    He’s being charged as an adult — “This was not an ordinary 17-year old,” said the state attorney

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    “This could have had a massive, massive amount of money stolen from people, it could have destabilized financial markets within America and across the globe; because he had access to powerful politicians’ Twitter accounts, he could have undermined politics as well as international diplomacy,” said Warren.

    It wasn't worse, maybe because he wasn't actually an adult?

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      1. monarda
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        I'd like to see more news making this case. From the Orlando Sentinel: I'm not conflicted at all. He should not be tried as an adult.

        I'd like to see more news making this case. From the Orlando Sentinel:

        Security experts were not surprised that the alleged mastermind of the hack is a 17-year-old, given the relative amateur nature both of the operation and the hackers’ willingness afterward to discuss the hack with reporters online.

        “I think this is a great case study showing how technology democratizes the ability to commit serious criminal acts,” said Jake Williams, founder of the cybersecurity firm Rendition Infosec. “I’m not terribly surprised that at least one of the suspects is a minor. There wasn’t a ton of development that went into this attack.”

        Williams said the hackers were “extremely sloppy” in how they moved the Bitcoin around.

        He also said he was conflicted about whether Clark should be charted as an adult.

        “He definitely deserves to pay (for jumping on the opportunity) but potentially serving decades in prison doesn’t seem like justice in this case,” William said.

        I'm not conflicted at all. He should not be tried as an adult.

        9 votes
    2. SunSpotter
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      This kid basically stole the keys to a Rolls Royce, and then used them to make off with the cars radio instead. If anything his decision making skills show how much of an ordinary 17 year old he...

      This kid basically stole the keys to a Rolls Royce, and then used them to make off with the cars radio instead. If anything his decision making skills show how much of an ordinary 17 year old he really is.

      Clearly, he's got some issues, and he's also obviously smart. But that doesn't suddenly make him capable of making decisions like an adult.

      7 votes
  3. Deimos
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    Twitter updated their blog post about the hack yesterday with a lot of new info, including the claim that access was gained through social-engineering employees over the phone.

    Twitter updated their blog post about the hack yesterday with a lot of new info, including the claim that access was gained through social-engineering employees over the phone.

    9 votes