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India bans PUBG, Baidu, WeChat, Alipay, and 114 Chinese apps in the third ban wave

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  1. [2]
    rish
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    As border tension between India-China are at all time high and taking note of fresh Pangong Tso Lake stand off, Government of India has banned another 118 Chinese apps today, invoking Section 69...

    As border tension between India-China are at all time high and taking note of fresh Pangong Tso Lake stand off, Government of India has banned another 118 Chinese apps today, invoking Section 69 of Information Technology Act in the interest of sovereignty, integrity, and security of the state and public order.

    First ban wave was done on June 29 after the Galwan Valley clashes, where 20 Indian soldiers died, China has not disclosed the number of causalities from their side. 59 Chinese apps were banned included TikTok, ShareIT, and UC Browser. tildes post. Second ban wave, in late July, was to ban clone apps that were relaunched with different names to bypass ban.

    PUBG was the most notable exclusion from the first ban wave given the large player base in India. Call of Duty Mobile is not banned despite the links with Tencent.

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    1. nacho
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      The context of Pangong Tso lake is incredibly important here. One of my favorite follows on twitter, The Economist's defence editor Shashank Joshi, has posted this excellent twitter thread on the...

      The context of Pangong Tso lake is incredibly important here. One of my favorite follows on twitter, The Economist's defence editor Shashank Joshi, has posted this excellent twitter thread on the developments for those who want to read more: https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1301134911311679490

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    KapteinB
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    Is the Indian government still framing this as a security measure, or are they admitting to it being economic retaliations now?

    Is the Indian government still framing this as a security measure, or are they admitting to it being economic retaliations now?

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    1. [3]
      rish
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      India is already doing Economic retaliation against China after the Galwan Valley clash. In beginning the Prime Minister didn't mention China directly. Initiatives like 'Local vo Vocal' (urging...

      India is already doing Economic retaliation against China after the Galwan Valley clash. In beginning the Prime Minister didn't mention China directly. Initiatives like 'Local vo Vocal' (urging Indians to prefer Indian products over foreign) and Aatamnirbhar Bharat were given by PM. Some major steps by India -

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        1. pvik
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          Just a nitpick Crore is unitless and does not convert to INR or USD 1 Crore = 10^7 1 Crore birds would be 10^7 birds 51000 Crore INR = 51 x 10^10 INR ; Which approx. is 7 x 10^9 USD...

          Just a nitpick

          unaware of what a crore is and how it converts to INR or USD

          Crore is unitless and does not convert to INR or USD

          1 Crore = 10^7

          1 Crore birds would be 10^7 birds


          51000 Crore INR = 51 x 10^10 INR ; Which approx. is 7 x 10^9 USD
          (6,962,229,967.96USD @ 1 INR = 0.0136514 USD)


          Another Indian numbering term is lakh = 1 x 10^5

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        2. rish
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          Yeah, thanks. That's correct. Personally I doubt China lost $7 billon as the report claims, it may have some truth. India's trade deficit with China did reduce in 2019-20 to $ 48.6 billion from...

          Yeah, thanks. That's correct. Personally I doubt China lost $7 billon as the report claims, it may have some truth. India's trade deficit with China did reduce in 2019-20 to $ 48.6 billion from 53.56 billion in 2018-19. here. Rest of the figures are just estimates.

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    skybrian
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    They should make exceptions for immigrants. Banning WeChat means cutting people off from their families. The risk seems manageable as long as it doesn’t become broadly popular.

    They should make exceptions for immigrants. Banning WeChat means cutting people off from their families. The risk seems manageable as long as it doesn’t become broadly popular.

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      aditya
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      Without getting into it specifically regarding wechat or any of the other apps, what's a practical technical way of doing something like that?

      Without getting into it specifically regarding wechat or any of the other apps, what's a practical technical way of doing something like that?

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        skybrian
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        I don’t know. How is the ban enforced anyway? In the case of Android, maybe allowing it if it’s side-loaded? That’s a pretty broad brush but the main point is probably just keeping it from...

        I don’t know. How is the ban enforced anyway?

        In the case of Android, maybe allowing it if it’s side-loaded? That’s a pretty broad brush but the main point is probably just keeping it from becoming too popular.

        It seems like it would be difficult to do more without cooperation with Apple and Google.

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        1. [2]
          pvik
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          I guess there would be 2 step to banning a app/service within a country. A request to the app stores to remove the application from that country's store. Apple and Google have the capability to do...

          I guess there would be 2 step to banning a app/service within a country.

          • A request to the app stores to remove the application from that country's store. Apple and Google have the capability to do this and when a country's Govt. request this, they comply.
          • The Telecommunications branch of the country will blacklist the IPs used by these services.

          Obviously, people may still be able to side-load the apps and use VPN services to get around those, but I suppose the majority of folks aren't going to be bothered by it.

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          1. HoolaBoola
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            Telegram just got unblocked a month or two ago by Russia, after years of them trying to block and stop any method of downloading Telegram. For apps like Telegram, where the average user is more...

            Telegram just got unblocked a month or two ago by Russia, after years of them trying to block and stop any method of downloading Telegram. For apps like Telegram, where the average user is more technically informed (than Whatsapp, for example), more people would use these. On the other hand, I doubt many tech savvy people in India used WeChat or such, so banning the app would be way more effective.

        2. aditya
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          Yeah, that's my thinking too.

          Yeah, that's my thinking too.

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