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Popular female biker in Japan revealed to be fifty-year-old uncle using FaceApp

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  1. [5]
    tesseractcat
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    I think as human interaction becomes more digital, we're going to see people's outwards identities become less and less connected to what they look like in real life. I estimate a decade and it'll...

    I think as human interaction becomes more digital, we're going to see people's outwards identities become less and less connected to what they look like in real life. I estimate a decade and it'll be possible to completely modify how you look, sound, and even move in the digital world. If working from home and virtual reality become more popular, I suspect that it will even become culturally accepted for people to have avatars with entirely different appearances. This concept is already gaining traction with 'v-tubers', but as technology makes it easier I don't think it will only apply to public figures.

    Personally, I'm actually looking forward to it. If anyone here has read "Liking What You See, a Documentary" by Ted Chiang, a world like this would be almost the opposite, where attractiveness doesn't matter because it's a choice.

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    1. [4]
      Grzmot
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      would it? People would still eventually have to meet in the real world, but now the standards would be even higher because it's not just ridiculously attractive people in hollywood and advertising...

      where attractiveness doesn't matter because it's a choice.

      would it? People would still eventually have to meet in the real world, but now the standards would be even higher because it's not just ridiculously attractive people in hollywood and advertising pushing body standards onto people, now it's all the virtual avatars too.

      6 votes
      1. [3]
        Thra11
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        Would they though? If you're trying to have an intimate relationship, then sure, but you can probably have a working relationship or some level of friendship without ever seeing the person's...

        People would still eventually have to meet in the real world

        Would they though? If you're trying to have an intimate relationship, then sure, but you can probably have a working relationship or some level of friendship without ever seeing the person's physical appearance.

        I'm reminded of S05E01 of Black Mirror, "Striking Vipers".

        5 votes
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          Grzmot
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          After having a tryout of this way of life during the pandemic, I don't want to live in a world like that.

          After having a tryout of this way of life during the pandemic, I don't want to live in a world like that.

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          1. Thra11
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            I certainly wouldn't want to lose all human contact, but I don't think that necessarily means I need to have close human contact with all my associates. There are people who I interact with online...

            I certainly wouldn't want to lose all human contact, but I don't think that necessarily means I need to have close human contact with all my associates. There are people who I interact with online who I have never seen and will probably never see, and as far as I'm concerned, that's fine. I know what my colleagues look like (or looked like a year ago), but I don't think it's important: I could work with them just as well if they were disembodied voices or animated fish avatars.

            2 votes
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    MonkeyPants
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    I think there is a deeper conversation to be had here, beyond the surface observation that this one 50 year old man has incredibly beautiful hair, and the obvious catfishing concerns. If FaceApp...

    "I want to share pictures of myself riding a motorcycle, but no one wants to see an uncle," he said.

    Souya said when he initially opened the account in January 2019 to post about his motorcycle adventures, he did not attract many followers.

    But after posting a picture of himself he as a woman he made on FaceApp for fun, he quickly gained 1,000 followers and decided to continue posting with his online female persona since.

    I think there is a deeper conversation to be had here, beyond the surface observation that this one 50 year old man has incredibly beautiful hair, and the obvious catfishing concerns.

    If FaceApp can really turn a 50 year old man into a 20 year old woman, that is deeply disturbing on so many levels. We implicitly trust faces. We trust attractive faces more.

    What are the implications for protecting children from predators? Predators usually claim to be younger than they are.

    What about protecting the elderly from elder fraud? There are so many examples of the elderly falling in love with a younger man/woman from another country, and sending them money only to find out too late it was all a scam and the person no longer existed.

    10 votes
    1. [5]
      Pistos
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      I know what you're saying, and that kind of wrong/evil/harm would of course be bad. At the same time, I think it might be a good thing for us, modern humanity, to give some thought to just how...

      I know what you're saying, and that kind of wrong/evil/harm would of course be bad. At the same time, I think it might be a good thing for us, modern humanity, to give some thought to just how much weight we give to physical appearance and stereotypical attractive features when we judge and esteem others -- and whether it should be that much. These moments of disillusionment could be opportunities.

      12 votes
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        MonkeyPants
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        I definitely thought about that also. "Pretty girl + object = more internet points." I don't see that changing. We are hard wired to prefer the attractive. I myself am having a Matrix Steak...

        I definitely thought about that also.

        "Pretty girl + object = more internet points."

        I don't see that changing.

        We are hard wired to prefer the attractive.

        I myself am having a Matrix Steak moment.

        I know it's fake. But the pretty girl is more pretty.

        8 votes
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          1. MonkeyPants
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            It's so fabulous, it's the only thing that keeps me believing.

            It's so fabulous, it's the only thing that keeps me believing.

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        2. drannex
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          "matrix steak moment" is forever etched into my primary vocabulary bank

          "matrix steak moment" is forever etched into my primary vocabulary bank

          5 votes
      2. post_below
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        We definitely should. We should also be realistic about it... Some of our response to attractiveness, relative though it is, precedes conscious thought. At least according to the research. See...

        We definitely should. We should also be realistic about it... Some of our response to attractiveness, relative though it is, precedes conscious thought. At least according to the research. See also, the Halo Effect. And so on, there are so many ways these things are built into the system.

        As with most of our base wiring, we should use our forebrains to moderate and even reinterpret. And we should also embrace the animals that we are.

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  3. Autoxidation
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    That hair is amazing.

    That hair is amazing.

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  4. feigneddork
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    Homie needed his serotonin so badly he switched his face to a different gender.

    Homie needed his serotonin so badly he switched his face to a different gender.

    2 votes