18 votes

Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs away from its site

4 comments

  1. [4]
    knocklessmonster
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    This could pave the way to cross-platform deplatforming in general. If Twitch's hands were ever tied because of a known bad actor doing something on Twitter, I guess this gives them a way to...

    This could pave the way to cross-platform deplatforming in general. If Twitch's hands were ever tied because of a known bad actor doing something on Twitter, I guess this gives them a way to ensure they can't do it, or build an audience on Twitch.

    My first response was that it was not great, but I imagine this is reserved for the absolute worst offenders, given the list of bannable offenses.

    3 votes
    1. [2]
      nacho
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      I think it's great and that it only makes sense to do. Most twitchers build their entire audience/platform off twitch and then branch out. If they then bully/abuse/ send their followers on or...

      I think it's great and that it only makes sense to do.

      Most twitchers build their entire audience/platform off twitch and then branch out. If they then bully/abuse/ send their followers on or otherwise do bad things with that audience they've built on twitch on a different platform they've branched out to, twitch needs to react.

      Otherwise twitch becomes a safe-haven for building mobs you can leverage elsewhere.


      In online streaming, like for every other public figure, deplatforming the worst folks isn't about what platform they're on, but not giving bad people a huge audience on your platform, irrespective of where you discover they're a bad person.

      13 votes
      1. raze2012
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        The devil is always in the details, so it really depends on what "Severe misconduct" means in practice. In theory, yes: it's a good idea for a "public figure" to be held in check for the actions...

        The devil is always in the details, so it really depends on what "Severe misconduct" means in practice. In theory, yes: it's a good idea for a "public figure" to be held in check for the actions quotesd like "hate-group membership or credible threats of mass violence".

        in practice, I can easily see this being a way for a site to enforce certain opinions or content, despite not being on their platform. I've already heard of some Patreon artists with adult content they create offsite, being affected over recent changes in the Tos. Being required to remove that offsite content to keep service on Patreon. Those decisions are what make me wary. These are not contractual employees, but users of a platform they provide, so they shouldn't be treated as the former unless Twitch is ready to provide healthcare and insurance.


        I should also mention that there was an excessive focus on real world crimes in here as well. Again, I hope this is within reasonable means, but I really hope this isn't just another channel of potential career being blocked out from people over misdemeanors like drugs (especially in states that have now legalized certain ones) or some ongoing civil case.

        12 votes
    2. stu2b50
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      All of this is just self imposed rules to begin with. Twitch can ban anyone and everyone for any particular reason it wants, including just simply "I don't like you". The only reasons rules exists...

      All of this is just self imposed rules to begin with. Twitch can ban anyone and everyone for any particular reason it wants, including just simply "I don't like you". The only reasons rules exists is to give its creators better insight and hypothetically more security using the platform.

      This doesn't create any new power for Twitch, because they already have full power over who's on their platform.

      And to be honest, I don't think it ever really made sense when you think about it to restrict bannable offenses to things committed on the site itself. Already whether or not you get banned is just fiat from Twitch - in what circumstance does restricting themselves from acting on out-of-platform events change that?

      If you, for example, think that Twitch has inconsistent moderation, then it's not like this changes anything for better or for worse.

      7 votes