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I mailed an AirTag and tracked its progress; Here’s what happened

11 comments

  1. [11]
    Rocket_Man
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    I find it a bit frustrating that Apple is able to leverage its customers devices like this to implement products/features that in my view have ethical concerns that society hasn't had a chance to...

    I find it a bit frustrating that Apple is able to leverage its customers devices like this to implement products/features that in my view have ethical concerns that society hasn't had a chance to really discuss.

    6 votes
    1. skybrian
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      It's unsettling, but doesn't seem much different from any other organization doing what they want (that's not illegal). Other than scale, which makes all the difference in the world. I don't know...

      It's unsettling, but doesn't seem much different from any other organization doing what they want (that's not illegal). Other than scale, which makes all the difference in the world.

      I don't know who would review this or what criteria they would use to give the go-ahead.

      3 votes
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      teaearlgraycold
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      At least everyone can track Android users now instead of just governments and cell phone carriers. That could be what gets restrictions to human tracking put in place.

      At least everyone can track Android users now instead of just governments and cell phone carriers. That could be what gets restrictions to human tracking put in place.

      2 votes
      1. [8]
        skybrian
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        AirTag is Apple-only.

        AirTag is Apple-only.

        2 votes
        1. [7]
          teaearlgraycold
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          AirTags don't track Apple users that aren't paired with the tag. But if you have Android there will be no warning or notification.

          AirTags don't track Apple users that aren't paired with the tag. But if you have Android there will be no warning or notification.

          4 votes
          1. [2]
            skybrian
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            Oh, I see. Or it could be anyone without a cell phone. Their warning to iPhone users is itself pretty weak. Also, it seems like most other tracking devices wouldn't warn anyone at all? Someone who...

            Oh, I see. Or it could be anyone without a cell phone.

            Their warning to iPhone users is itself pretty weak. Also, it seems like most other tracking devices wouldn't warn anyone at all? Someone who wants a tracker that remains hidden would get something else.

            2 votes
            1. teaearlgraycold
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              Plenty of wrongdoing is just done with what’s on hand. Now that Apple is making these, they will become standard 21st century equipment.

              Plenty of wrongdoing is just done with what’s on hand. Now that Apple is making these, they will become standard 21st century equipment.

              4 votes
          2. [4]
            Greg
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            I haven't looked into AirTags at all - this article constitutes all I know about how they work - could you explain a bit more on how they're connecting to Android devices as well? Is it dependent...

            I haven't looked into AirTags at all - this article constitutes all I know about how they work - could you explain a bit more on how they're connecting to Android devices as well? Is it dependent on having Apple software installed?

            1 vote
            1. [2]
              Diff
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              It's not the presence of Android, it's the absence of Apple that's the problem. If you slip an AirTag into someone's bag, you can track them wherever they go. If they have an Apple device, in...

              It's not the presence of Android, it's the absence of Apple that's the problem. If you slip an AirTag into someone's bag, you can track them wherever they go. If they have an Apple device, in theory their device will alert them if an unfamiliar AirTag is moving with them. But if they have an Android? Or don't have any phone at all? They'll be completely unaware of the potential stalker they're carrying around with them.

              2 votes
              1. Greg
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                Oh I see! Got it, thank you - you'd be relying on other unrelated Apple devices to track them, and knowing they're unaware because they're on Android. That just wasn't clicking in my brain for...

                Oh I see! Got it, thank you - you'd be relying on other unrelated Apple devices to track them, and knowing they're unaware because they're on Android. That just wasn't clicking in my brain for some reason.

                1 vote
            2. teaearlgraycold
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              Sorry, what I mean is that they are NOT connecting to Android devices, thus they provide Android users with no way to know they have an AirTag in their backpack, car, etc. Apple users get alerted...

              Sorry, what I mean is that they are NOT connecting to Android devices, thus they provide Android users with no way to know they have an AirTag in their backpack, car, etc.

              Apple users get alerted to being tracked, though.

              1 vote