A group we are missing, that I would really like to see is ~Culinary. Would anyone else be interested?
I think ~culinary would be beneficial to see, it could include areas like;
I am a little biased because of my profession (Sous Chef), but I do see a lot of Culinary related posts that are spread out over several different groups. It would be nice to have them organized into their own group.
And if anyone is worried about it being active, I subscribe to several culinary news sites that I rarely post here so It would give me a chance to share some of that stuff. Not to mention giving us a place to share already popular Youtube series and recipes.
I know this content doesn't lend to discussion as much as others, but it would still be high quality.
EDIT: Maybe a solution is to have more of those posts end up in ~food instead of being spread out. Although I feel like the ~food heading is a little more restrictive, so maybe rename ~food to ~culinary?
Good question! I've noticed a lot of people really like having a separation between "cooking" and "food". Looking at ~food right now and it's a lot of articles about food related stuff, where culinary (I imagine) would be more about cooking, techniques, recipes, tools, etc.
It may be a bit early in the process for it right now, but I'm just not sure I'd be going to ~food to figure out why my hollandaise sauce broke for the 100th time using the blender method.
I've posted a couple recipe posts in ~food, but mentally there is a bit of a block towards being more active with that kind of stuff there. There is a kind of separation, among some people at least, between food as a topic and cooking as an action.
There's also a separation between playing games as a recreational activity and developing games as an action, but topics about both these subjects are posted in ~games. (Paging @EscReality.)
touché.
It appears it is my own perception of the ~food group that needs to be expanded, not necessarily the group itself. I will admit the thought had not occurred to me before posting this. I think a big part of that is how restrictive Reddit food related subs can be and part of that was still floating around in my head.
When we have only 20-ish groups, they must necessarily be broad. Specialisation and focus will come later.
I agree, that's kind of why I was wanting a group that could cover both.
Yea I guess, but I feel like having a ~culinary section would cover a lot more than just ~food.
But, I suppose in reality it's just semantics.
I think in general we should let the content come first, then the division into groups, rather than creating groups we hope will have content and assuming "if we build it, they will come".
So I'd say post the links you find interesting to ~food, then when we have meaningful subgroups (which still requires a bit of dev work) we can look at the existing topics in ~food and decide how best to categorize them, which might be ~food.culinary for professional stuff, ~food.recipes, etc.
The content being spread out was kind of why I posted. We are not lacking content that would fit there, we are just lacking it organized into one place.
I see a lot of culinary (or food) related things posted in ~news and ~misc. It seems that people limit what they think actually belongs in ~food and that's why I was thinking the main group should be broader.
Can you link to some examples of the kind of topics you mean? I just looked through about the last 200 posts (from the last two weeks) in ~news and ~misc and don't think I saw anything that was more than tangentially related to food/culinary topics. There are ones that mention food but I generally wouldn't consider it the focus of the articles that I saw.
This is an example I can remember off hand. It is even from a pretty big culinary news source.
While the topic really doesn't fall under ~food or even ~food.news, it could fall under ~culinary or ~culinary.news. It is not really about food in itself, but cooking and nutrition (which obviously is why its in ~health).
I don't know, I might be imagining things or over analyzing it.
EDIT: Here is another example of something that would fit in ~culinary but not ~food
I think you're probably just attaching too much significance to the terms and group name. There's no particular reason that anything you've mentioned can't be posted in ~food, it's just a general subject.
I think you are probably right.
I'd suggest just going for it and start posting the types of things you want to see in ~food. The site's still early and the groups mostly aren't very active, it's not like there's a huge amount of precedent for what does or doesn't belong anywhere. If there are obvious issues we can always do some rearranging or splitting into new subgroups or whatever.
Sounds like a plan.
~health and ~food have some crossover when it comes to topics about diets, and ~humanities has some crossover when it comes to societal issues related to food, like public policy for food safety... but IMO those topics you gave as examples could have easily fit in ~food too. And just because they were posted in another group where they were also appropriate doesn't necessarily mean it was because the OP didn't think they fit in ~food.
But if that really is the reason why they weren't posted in ~food, do you think including "cooking and nutrition" in the ~food description might help? I think broadening the group description for food is a much better solution than potentially confusing things even more with a ~culinary top-level group.
Do you have the ability to move topics? If so, use that ability. If not, send a message to @Deimos asking him to move a topic if you think it belongs in a different group than the one it was posted in.
It's as broad as you want it to be. For example, I believe culinary topics belong in ~food; you're the one who thinks they don't! So just change your own perceptions, start posting culinary topics in ~food, and make it the group you want it to be.
Can you link to some examples?
It's possible to move topics between groups, PM Deimos if you want permissions. They're given out fairly liberally so I see no reason why you wouldn't get them, especially if you want to take a group like ~food under your wing.
In general, I see ~news and ~misc as our two catch-all groups, ~news for current things that don't fit anywhere else and ~misc for timeless things that don't fit anywhere else. So if it's food-related I think moving it from one of those groups to ~food is entirely fair game.
Here you go
To my mind, cooking and nutrition are a subset of food-related topics: they are about preparing food and eating food. So, I'd be inclined to suggest a ~food.culinary sub-group. In the meantime, post your articles in ~food with a "culinary" tag, which will demonstrate the demand for a ~food.culinary sub-group in the future.
I would be interested for sure.
~Food is better. I keep seeing "culinary", misreading it as "cunnilary", and wondering why Tildes would have a section about cunnilingus that isn't marked NSFW.
Yes, but ~food covers a more limited array of topics than ~culinary would.
I think having ~culinary would allow for the posting of news, food topics as well as educational information.
Where as ~food tends to limit its self to just things directly related to ~food and we miss out on educational information and food news just ends up in ~news.
As far as reading comprehension goes, I cannot help you with that, but I find it hilarious.
You were supposed to; it was a joke.
Well, thank you for the laugh. =D