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Would there be any want or need for a Tildes Discord Server?

As the title says, I'm wondering if there is any want or need for a Tildes Discord server. I have a few ideas on how it might work, and how to make it a better for discussion than the usual Discord server.

My personal reason for wanting a Tildes Discord server is that right now, Tildes is a slow site. Posts are made once every hour or so, and while I'd much rather have the hourly high-effort and interesting posts than low-quality posts, a Discord server would be able to facilitate more direct and speedy discussion. The problem is that a Discord server is inherently geared towards more low-quality discussion already, so a pretty extensive system might have to be put into place to make it work.

However, I don't want to go through the process of creating only to find out that no one is interested. If there is significant interest, I'll do a write-up of the ideas I have and add them onto this post.

Slightly unrelated, but I'm still getting adjusted to the tag system. If I've done anything wrong there, please let me know.

Edit: Many helpful users have pointed out and shown many problems with the idea, as well as Deimos' stance on them. Right now it just seems to not be worth it, but I'll keep the idea on the backburner for the future perhaps.

19 comments

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    Eabryt Link
    I don't think a Discord is needed. If you want more discussion on the site, then respond to other comments. I think if you create a Discord channel then there will be even less activity on the site.

    I don't think a Discord is needed. If you want more discussion on the site, then respond to other comments.

    I think if you create a Discord channel then there will be even less activity on the site.

    55 votes
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      0F0_Simplex Link Parent
      That's a good point that I hadn't thought of, thanks for pointing it out. It seems like I thought I had a million dollar idea that ended up not being worth much, as I often do. Again, thanks for...

      That's a good point that I hadn't thought of, thanks for pointing it out. It seems like I thought I had a million dollar idea that ended up not being worth much, as I often do. Again, thanks for the criticism of the idea.

      7 votes
      1. Exalt Link Parent
        This is the same flaw in Reddit's chat room feature. A huge amount of value is in the existing threads, which is completely lost in a chat room. For example, I frequently (or used to anyways)...

        This is the same flaw in Reddit's chat room feature. A huge amount of value is in the existing threads, which is completely lost in a chat room. For example, I frequently (or used to anyways) search for Reddit threads discussing particular aspects of Dota.

        3 votes
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    1. 0F0_Simplex Link Parent
      Thanks, the official stance from Deimos is useful. He brings up a lot of probable problems with the Discord server as well. I would like to think I could figure something out to curb said...

      Thanks, the official stance from Deimos is useful. He brings up a lot of probable problems with the Discord server as well. I would like to think I could figure something out to curb said problems, but it would take a lot of time and effort and may not be worth it. Like Eabyrt said above, a Discord server might very well take activity away from Tildes itself, which isn't what I want at all.

      7 votes
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    arghdos Link
    I believe there are already a few Tildes rooms on various chat clients

    I believe there are already a few Tildes rooms on various chat clients

    18 votes
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      0F0_Simplex Link Parent
      I was unaware there even was a Tildes wiki! And yes, it seems like there already is a Discord server listed there. I suppose someone beat me to the punch.

      I was unaware there even was a Tildes wiki! And yes, it seems like there already is a Discord server listed there. I suppose someone beat me to the punch.

      7 votes
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        1. 0F0_Simplex Link Parent
          Thanks for the clarification! I think I'll keep these bookmarked for future use.

          Thanks for the clarification! I think I'll keep these bookmarked for future use.

          5 votes
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      Algernon_Asimov Link Parent
      Are any of them active?

      Are any of them active?

      2 votes
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        Droplet Link Parent
        The discord server @Kat made is fairly active

        The discord server @Kat made is fairly active

        5 votes
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          PopeRigby Link Parent
          Wait a second here. For once here @Kat wasn't the one to do it. It was me (:

          Wait a second here. For once here @Kat wasn't the one to do it. It was me (:

          4 votes
  4. tesseractcat Link
    If there was to be a tildes chat room, I'd prefer an open protocol like matrix.

    If there was to be a tildes chat room, I'd prefer an open protocol like matrix.

    11 votes
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    1. 0F0_Simplex Link Parent
      Dang, I wish I was compensated to shill Discord servers! /s More seriously, I doubt Discord is directly or indirectly paying people to start and advertise Discord servers. I suspect it's just...

      Dang, I wish I was compensated to shill Discord servers! /s

      More seriously, I doubt Discord is directly or indirectly paying people to start and advertise Discord servers. I suspect it's just regular people, who happen to want to have their own personal fiefdom server. In all honesty, I don't blame them. It would be nice to own a large Discord server. But I digress.

      One way or the other, thanks for the input.

      5 votes
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        apoctr Link Parent
        Rez isn't saying they are MLM marketers. They're saying that in the process of getting those "huge communities", partners come across in a similar way - pushy, aggressive.

        Rez isn't saying they are MLM marketers. They're saying that in the process of getting those "huge communities", partners come across in a similar way - pushy, aggressive.

        5 votes
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          1. apoctr (edited ) Link Parent
            I'm too young to know much of anything about IRC, but I'd guess the main difference is people weren't paid in reward for creating large communities(?). The fact Discord is proprietary probably has...

            How is it any different than people starting IRC communities back in the day?

            I'm too young to know much of anything about IRC, but I'd guess the main difference is people weren't paid in reward for creating large communities(?).

            I really don't get the hate.

            The fact Discord is proprietary probably has something to do with, honestly. If Discord were FOSS and decentralised, maybe there'd be more love. Other than that, people don't like being marketed at in general.

            E: I don't hate Discord. I just prefer to use other services.

            5 votes
  6. cos Link
    I think @what said it best in the last thread:

    I think @what said it best in the last thread:

    With the open-source and privacy-oriented focus of Tildes, I think IRC or Matrix should also be considered.

    [Problems with Discord:] Closed-source, proprietary, no end-to-end encryption (and it won't have it for the foreseeable future), and a concerning privacy policy (particularly INFORMATION WE COLLECT and OUR DISCLOSURE OF YOUR INFORMATION).
    Communication services should never be closed-source, especially when there are several great alternatives available. You have to remember that Discord doesn't yet have a solid/sustainable revenue model, and they're likely at the point where they need to figure something out before their VC funding runs out. This much chat data about millions of users is very valuable... just something to keep in mind.

    8 votes
  7. Barskie Link
    Disagreed. From experience, a Discord would sap activity from the main forum (whether Tildes or Reddit) and move it to Discord, where only a minority of users can view. What is the benefit of a...

    Disagreed. From experience, a Discord would sap activity from the main forum (whether Tildes or Reddit) and move it to Discord, where only a minority of users can view.

    What is the benefit of a Discord over ~talk?

    5 votes
  8. clone1 Link
    My biggest issue with a tildes discord server is that tildes is very strongly privacy conscious, anti adverting, and anti tracking, while discord is distinctly not. It just doesn't make sense to...

    My biggest issue with a tildes discord server is that tildes is very strongly privacy conscious, anti adverting, and anti tracking, while discord is distinctly not. It just doesn't make sense to pair those two services together.

    3 votes
  9. PopeRigby Link
    I created one that's pretty active. Here's the link if you're interested. Edit: I could also mod you if you want to make some productive changes.

    I created one that's pretty active. Here's the link if you're interested.

    Edit: I could also mod you if you want to make some productive changes.

    1 vote