Yeah, I deliberately decided to switch away from the established term here (both Reddit and Hacker News use "Hide"), because I've seen confusion in the past about what hiding a post does. I've...
Yeah, I deliberately decided to switch away from the established term here (both Reddit and Hacker News use "Hide"), because I've seen confusion in the past about what hiding a post does. I've seen users that thought hiding a post would hide it from everyone else, almost like it was a kind of "soft delete", where nobody would see it any more. I've also seen new moderators with a similar impression, that had to ask what the difference between "hide" and "remove" was.
One of the main reasons I like "ignore" is that I think it's much more clear that it only applies to you. It's a much more "personal" term, and I think it's really unlikely that anyone would believe they're affecting anyone else with it. You can certainly hide things from other people (arguably, hiding applies much more to other people, because you're the one who knows where it's hidden), but you can't make other people ignore something.
I really like ignore, but I never had an issue with hide. Oddly enough, my sister double posted to reddit today and I was walking her through deleting one of them. She used hide because her...
I really like ignore, but I never had an issue with hide.
Oddly enough, my sister double posted to reddit today and I was walking her through deleting one of them. She used hide because her assumption is that the post would then be hidden from everyone, not just her. We probably spent ten minutes texting back and forth because she was certain the post was gone, but I was refreshing the 'new' feed and they were both there.
With this context, ignore definitely makes more sense.
Your call. I don't see a problem with it either way TBH. I was just pointing out that there are actually less subs here than the official group. And I actually know a few of the users who have...
I believe that this post should remain.
Your call. I don't see a problem with it either way TBH. I was just pointing out that there are actually less subs here than the official group. And I actually know a few of the users who have unsubbed from ~tildes (because it's too "meta" for them) but kept subbed to the official group so they don't miss any major announcements.
So why not say that at the start and then leave it at that? IMO all that your asking leading question after leading question does is annoy people, make them feel like they're being interrogated,...
It seems inefficient for someone to split the discussion, and wouldn't provide the best outcome for the person trying to give their feedback.
So why not say that at the start and then leave it at that? IMO all that your asking leading question after leading question does is annoy people, make them feel like they're being interrogated, and potentially discourage them from ever participating again.
I understand that you're genuinely trying to improve yourself, your behavior, and how your actions/words are perceived... I truly do. And I have seen first hand that you have definitely done that...
I understand that you're genuinely trying to improve yourself, your behavior, and how your actions/words are perceived... I truly do. And I have seen first hand that you have definitely done that (improved, I mean), especially since your return, and I have even said so to several others. E.g. I saw your recent apologies, which I (and I'm sure others) appreciate more than I think you know. But unfortunately in this case, I think what you attempted to do (asking questions to help you understand others intent) has backfired pretty spectacularly. :P
And I totally understand why you might want to leave, or even feel you need to. Things do seem to go sideways for you a lot here... which has probably been partially (or even completely) my fault on more than one occasion... so I apologize for that, since my intent is absolutely not to drive you off. I don't want you to leave, I appreciate (most of ;) your contributions, and believe it or not, I genuinely would miss you if you did leave... That's all I can really say, I guess.
Have you considered that it might be to: Open up discussion on the word choice Point out potential usability issues Suggest the meaning be made clearer somewhere Etc. There is no need to assume...
Have you considered that it might be to:
Open up discussion on the word choice
Point out potential usability issues
Suggest the meaning be made clearer somewhere
Etc. There is no need to assume the worst here, like you seem to be doing with your last question.
Nobody said you were evil, but unfortunately, regardless of your intent, asking someone a seemingly relentless series of questions about their intentions, effectively asking them to justify their...
Nobody said you were evil, but unfortunately, regardless of your intent, asking someone a seemingly relentless series of questions about their intentions, effectively asking them to justify their actions here, can come across as pestering, interrogating, or in some cases even an attempt to shame them.... which tends to discourage people from further participating.
Yeah, I deliberately decided to switch away from the established term here (both Reddit and Hacker News use "Hide"), because I've seen confusion in the past about what hiding a post does. I've seen users that thought hiding a post would hide it from everyone else, almost like it was a kind of "soft delete", where nobody would see it any more. I've also seen new moderators with a similar impression, that had to ask what the difference between "hide" and "remove" was.
One of the main reasons I like "ignore" is that I think it's much more clear that it only applies to you. It's a much more "personal" term, and I think it's really unlikely that anyone would believe they're affecting anyone else with it. You can certainly hide things from other people (arguably, hiding applies much more to other people, because you're the one who knows where it's hidden), but you can't make other people ignore something.
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my theme is modified, but something like this? https://i.imgur.com/3GJHynN.png
I really like
ignore, but I never had an issue withhide.Oddly enough, my sister double posted to reddit today and I was walking her through deleting one of them. She used
hidebecause her assumption is that the post would then be hidden from everyone, not just her. We probably spent ten minutes texting back and forth because she was certain the post was gone, but I was refreshing the 'new' feed and they were both there.With this context,
ignoredefinitely makes more sense.Tangential UI hell: imagine if "hide" would only ever hide itself on click.
I'm pretty sure it's actually the opposite.
~tildes = 11245 subscribers
~tildes.official = 11312 subscribers
Your call. I don't see a problem with it either way TBH. I was just pointing out that there are actually less subs here than the official group. And I actually know a few of the users who have unsubbed from ~tildes (because it's too "meta" for them) but kept subbed to the official group so they don't miss any major announcements.
So why not say that at the start and then leave it at that? IMO all that your asking leading question after leading question does is annoy people, make them feel like they're being interrogated, and potentially discourage them from ever participating again.
I understand that you're genuinely trying to improve yourself, your behavior, and how your actions/words are perceived... I truly do. And I have seen first hand that you have definitely done that (improved, I mean), especially since your return, and I have even said so to several others. E.g. I saw your recent apologies, which I (and I'm sure others) appreciate more than I think you know. But unfortunately in this case, I think what you attempted to do (asking questions to help you understand others intent) has backfired pretty spectacularly. :P
And I totally understand why you might want to leave, or even feel you need to. Things do seem to go sideways for you a lot here... which has probably been partially (or even completely) my fault on more than one occasion... so I apologize for that, since my intent is absolutely not to drive you off. I don't want you to leave, I appreciate (most of ;) your contributions, and believe it or not, I genuinely would miss you if you did leave... That's all I can really say, I guess.
Have you considered that it might be to:
Etc. There is no need to assume the worst here, like you seem to be doing with your last question.
Nobody said you were evil, but unfortunately, regardless of your intent, asking someone a seemingly relentless series of questions about their intentions, effectively asking them to justify their actions here, can come across as pestering, interrogating, or in some cases even an attempt to shame them.... which tends to discourage people from further participating.