Hopefully it turns out better than Disenchantment did... Futurama's first revival was actually quite good despite a few weak episodes, which is natural for something that's technically been...
Hopefully it turns out better than Disenchantment did...
Futurama's first revival was actually quite good despite a few weak episodes, which is natural for something that's technically been running on-and-off for seven seasons. It certainly gave a far more satisfying series finale with Meanwhile, compared to The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings. Season 4's conclusion was honestly quite shit and relied way too much on the whole "making a deal with the devil" trope.
What I don't understand is why Futurama of all series is being revived. It got four direct-to-video films (that later got edited and split into 12 episodes making up Season 5) and two additional seasons under Comedy Central. Technically Groening's magnum opus got its 6 seasons and a movie, and unlike The Simpsons isn't a rotting husk being milked for all it's still worth by Fox.
I take issue with this. Disenchantment is a high quality animated series. You might not like it for personal reasons, but if the next Futurama revival turns out as well as Disenchantment did, that...
Hopefully it turns out better than Disenchantment did...
I take issue with this. Disenchantment is a high quality animated series. You might not like it for personal reasons, but if the next Futurama revival turns out as well as Disenchantment did, that is a good revival indeed.
I hope you can discern between disliking something for quality reasons vs for personal preference reasons.
The main "problem" with Disenchantment is that, in the age of TikTok, it dares to be a slow comedic animation. There's character development. The timing of the jokes is reminiscent of the late...
The main "problem" with Disenchantment is that, in the age of TikTok, it dares to be a slow comedic animation. There's character development. The timing of the jokes is reminiscent of the late 90s. It also allows itself to not make a joke of out of everything, and has quite a few moments of drama. It resembles classic Simpsons more than current Simpsons, and 1999 Futurama more than 2013 Futurama. A lot of people expected Disenchantment to be the cartoonish, consequence free, wacky comedy that Simpsons has become. That's not what Disenchantment is about. It has a heart.
I mean, it's not superb or anything, but it does have a heart.
My biggest problem with Disenchantment was that it was pitched as a Fantasy genre parody but seemed like it was written by somebody who only had a passing familiarity with the genre. Honestly it...
My biggest problem with Disenchantment was that it was pitched as a Fantasy genre parody but seemed like it was written by somebody who only had a passing familiarity with the genre. Honestly it seemed more like the pastiche was based on fairy tales and folklore than modern fantasy.
Maybe that's not fair to the show, but it's how it was pitched and advertised, and it wasn't really what the show was.
I have issues similar to @TheRtRevKaiser, but my main compliant is that it seems to have a bit of a overarching issue where it wants to tell a greater story, but doesn't want to give up...
I have issues similar to @TheRtRevKaiser, but my main compliant is that it seems to have a bit of a overarching issue where it wants to tell a greater story, but doesn't want to give up shenanigans either, so it doesn't really take the characters anywhere new or move the plot anywhere that can't be undone at the next season premiere. Multiple times where Dreamland or a character has been imperiled and the show teases that this where we finally change gears, they double back and get back to the old dynamics asap, and keep the nebulous off screen evil nebulous and off screen until it's time for next season finale. It's the DC Crisis issue where each time it's promised that this one changes everything, when it really doesn't.
This was the issue my wife had with the show (and sort of me but less so). I think it was most prominent in either season 2 or 3? I can't really remember anymore its been a while since I watched....
This was the issue my wife had with the show (and sort of me but less so). I think it was most prominent in either season 2 or 3? I can't really remember anymore its been a while since I watched. The whole season you would see characters get shit on and kicked while they are down repeatedly with varying tones of comedy and seriousness that made the tone a bit confusing, but then you get to a season finale and really sit down and think about it and the status quo hasn't changed despite an entire season of things happening. Which would be fine, if it didn't feel like the show seems to imply/think that things have changed.
A lot of the people involved with Futurama showed continuous interest in making more episodes throughout the years, including the creators and many voice artists. They seem to believe that there...
A lot of the people involved with Futurama showed continuous interest in making more episodes throughout the years, including the creators and many voice artists. They seem to believe that there are still many great stories to tell. Of course there's economic interest in it, but I've been following everything realated to Futurama for years and I truly believe that artistic passion has a lot to do with it as well.
The Comedy Central continuation was a bit of a step backward for me. The increased vulgarity honestly took away some of the humorous impact by dissolving humorous tension to the point where I was...
The Comedy Central continuation was a bit of a step backward for me. The increased vulgarity honestly took away some of the humorous impact by dissolving humorous tension to the point where I was just generally bored and not laughing at the slightly edgier version the humor that made it great. I'm slightly worried that going fully online will be yet another step in that direction.
I had issues with how topical the humor was, as opposed to the humor in the Fox era. I'm thinking of that Eye-phone episode in particular. Then again, as I was reviewing what came out in what...
I had issues with how topical the humor was, as opposed to the humor in the Fox era. I'm thinking of that Eye-phone episode in particular.
Then again, as I was reviewing what came out in what season, I kept thinking "oh yeah, that episode was pretty good", so maybe I'm just a tired old cynic, and should lighten up, ha.
Regardless of if this revival is good or not, I'm still super pissed as a Futurama fan. The finale of Futurama was one of the best series finales I have ever seen. It being a season finale instead...
Regardless of if this revival is good or not, I'm still super pissed as a Futurama fan. The finale of Futurama was one of the best series finales I have ever seen. It being a season finale instead really deflates the quality of the episode IMO.
Eh, being a show with three series finales, I'm taking the liberty of treating this as a choose-your-own-finale situation, where Meanwhile is still the one that counts the most, haha. I'm treating...
Eh, being a show with three series finales, I'm taking the liberty of treating this as a choose-your-own-finale situation, where Meanwhile is still the one that counts the most, haha.
I'm treating the continuity of the endings like the Clue movie at this point.
Futurama is one of my all-time favorite shows. I love the nerdy comedy, and characters were practically perfect in the original run. I did enjoy the movie season, and I consider a few episodes out...
Futurama is one of my all-time favorite shows. I love the nerdy comedy, and characters were practically perfect in the original run. I did enjoy the movie season, and I consider a few episodes out of the Comedy Central seasons to be gems. But to be honest, I'm nervous about new content not capturing the same spark as the earlier seasons. But I'm more tired and jaded than I was back in the Comedy Central revival era, so I'll keep my cynicism brief...
I want to know the motivations for the return before I get excited. Are we seeing a return to tell more stories that only Futurama can tell? Are we going to see yet another nostalgia cash-in?
All that said, what's all this about John DiMaggio potentially not returning to voice Bender? That is... Well, I'd say worrisome, but I'm with those who are in the "expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised" camp.
Grunka lunka, grunka deefloobius...
Color me very extremely dubious.
Everyone involved with the show declared multiple times that they still had many good stories to tell. I understand the skepticism, but I don't think that's just a case of a corporation looking...
I want to know the motivations for the return before I get excited
Everyone involved with the show declared multiple times that they still had many good stories to tell. I understand the skepticism, but I don't think that's just a case of a corporation looking for a quick buck. Since the end of the show, creators and voice artists consistently showed great passion for the franchise and a desire to move forward with it.
I've heard that too, and I do take it to heart. I want to be excited, but I'm just too cynical at the moment. I'm remembering the conversations on the Roland Emmerich thread that popped up...
I've heard that too, and I do take it to heart. I want to be excited, but I'm just too cynical at the moment. I'm remembering the conversations on the Roland Emmerich thread that popped up recently about how Disney is resorting to a lot of nostalgia tripping and camping instead of telling good stories. I hope that the cast and crew get a lot of distance between them and the executives on the creative front.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, DiMaggio is in negotiations but hasn’t closed a deal. I trust that they’ll work something out with him, he’s probably going to use the fan outrage as leverage...
According to The Hollywood Reporter, DiMaggio is in negotiations but hasn’t closed a deal. I trust that they’ll work something out with him, he’s probably going to use the fan outrage as leverage to get himself a better deal.
Yeah, I'm seeing that as the news keeps breaking. It seems he'll play the games he feels like he needs to in order to get what he wants out of the deal, which is fine I guess. Again, not screaming...
Yeah, I'm seeing that as the news keeps breaking. It seems he'll play the games he feels like he needs to in order to get what he wants out of the deal, which is fine I guess. Again, not screaming "YES" about the announcement in the first place, more of a "interesting, we'll see where it goes" sort of feeling from me.
They revived before. It was great!
At least we might get more quality gifs?
Hopefully it turns out better than Disenchantment did...
Futurama's first revival was actually quite good despite a few weak episodes, which is natural for something that's technically been running on-and-off for seven seasons. It certainly gave a far more satisfying series finale with Meanwhile, compared to The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings. Season 4's conclusion was honestly quite shit and relied way too much on the whole "making a deal with the devil" trope.
What I don't understand is why Futurama of all series is being revived. It got four direct-to-video films (that later got edited and split into 12 episodes making up Season 5) and two additional seasons under Comedy Central. Technically Groening's magnum opus got its 6 seasons and a movie, and unlike The Simpsons isn't a rotting husk being milked for all it's still worth by Fox.
found the answer to your question of "why are they doing this" :P
Edited; I didn't like the tone my phrasing implied.
I take issue with this. Disenchantment is a high quality animated series. You might not like it for personal reasons, but if the next Futurama revival turns out as well as Disenchantment did, that is a good revival indeed.
I hope you can discern between disliking something for quality reasons vs for personal preference reasons.
The main "problem" with Disenchantment is that, in the age of TikTok, it dares to be a slow comedic animation. There's character development. The timing of the jokes is reminiscent of the late 90s. It also allows itself to not make a joke of out of everything, and has quite a few moments of drama. It resembles classic Simpsons more than current Simpsons, and 1999 Futurama more than 2013 Futurama. A lot of people expected Disenchantment to be the cartoonish, consequence free, wacky comedy that Simpsons has become. That's not what Disenchantment is about. It has a heart.
I mean, it's not superb or anything, but it does have a heart.
My biggest problem with Disenchantment was that it was pitched as a Fantasy genre parody but seemed like it was written by somebody who only had a passing familiarity with the genre. Honestly it seemed more like the pastiche was based on fairy tales and folklore than modern fantasy.
Maybe that's not fair to the show, but it's how it was pitched and advertised, and it wasn't really what the show was.
I have issues similar to @TheRtRevKaiser, but my main compliant is that it seems to have a bit of a overarching issue where it wants to tell a greater story, but doesn't want to give up shenanigans either, so it doesn't really take the characters anywhere new or move the plot anywhere that can't be undone at the next season premiere. Multiple times where Dreamland or a character has been imperiled and the show teases that this where we finally change gears, they double back and get back to the old dynamics asap, and keep the nebulous off screen evil nebulous and off screen until it's time for next season finale. It's the DC Crisis issue where each time it's promised that this one changes everything, when it really doesn't.
This was the issue my wife had with the show (and sort of me but less so). I think it was most prominent in either season 2 or 3? I can't really remember anymore its been a while since I watched. The whole season you would see characters get shit on and kicked while they are down repeatedly with varying tones of comedy and seriousness that made the tone a bit confusing, but then you get to a season finale and really sit down and think about it and the status quo hasn't changed despite an entire season of things happening. Which would be fine, if it didn't feel like the show seems to imply/think that things have changed.
I gave seasons 1 and 2 of Disenchantment a go, but I just couldn't get into it. I blame my sci-fi biases. How are the later seasons in comparison?
Slightly more developed but if you couldn’t get into the first two, don’t insist, it’s probably just not your kind of thing.
Yeah, I gave it what I thought was a fair shake. I don't get why it didn't click for me. :shrug:
I feel the same way about King of the Hill.
I too rather like Disenchantment. There are some genuinely good jokes that reminded me why Matt Groening is genius.
A lot of the people involved with Futurama showed continuous interest in making more episodes throughout the years, including the creators and many voice artists. They seem to believe that there are still many great stories to tell. Of course there's economic interest in it, but I've been following everything realated to Futurama for years and I truly believe that artistic passion has a lot to do with it as well.
The Comedy Central continuation was a bit of a step backward for me. The increased vulgarity honestly took away some of the humorous impact by dissolving humorous tension to the point where I was just generally bored and not laughing at the slightly edgier version the humor that made it great. I'm slightly worried that going fully online will be yet another step in that direction.
I had issues with how topical the humor was, as opposed to the humor in the Fox era. I'm thinking of that Eye-phone episode in particular.
Then again, as I was reviewing what came out in what season, I kept thinking "oh yeah, that episode was pretty good", so maybe I'm just a tired old cynic, and should lighten up, ha.
Regardless of if this revival is good or not, I'm still super pissed as a Futurama fan. The finale of Futurama was one of the best series finales I have ever seen. It being a season finale instead really deflates the quality of the episode IMO.
Which one?
Eh, being a show with three series finales, I'm taking the liberty of treating this as a choose-your-own-finale situation, where Meanwhile is still the one that counts the most, haha.
I'm treating the continuity of the endings like the Clue movie at this point.
Absolutely. For all the problems Season 7 had, it gave fans an incredible conclusion.
Meanwhile is the best series finale they could've ended with.
Maybe the next season won't take place after Meanwhile?
Futurama is one of my all-time favorite shows. I love the nerdy comedy, and characters were practically perfect in the original run. I did enjoy the movie season, and I consider a few episodes out of the Comedy Central seasons to be gems. But to be honest, I'm nervous about new content not capturing the same spark as the earlier seasons. But I'm more tired and jaded than I was back in the Comedy Central revival era, so I'll keep my cynicism brief...
I want to know the motivations for the return before I get excited. Are we seeing a return to tell more stories that only Futurama can tell? Are we going to see yet another nostalgia cash-in?
All that said, what's all this about John DiMaggio potentially not returning to voice Bender? That is... Well, I'd say worrisome, but I'm with those who are in the "expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised" camp.
Grunka lunka, grunka deefloobius...
Color me very extremely dubious.
Everyone involved with the show declared multiple times that they still had many good stories to tell. I understand the skepticism, but I don't think that's just a case of a corporation looking for a quick buck. Since the end of the show, creators and voice artists consistently showed great passion for the franchise and a desire to move forward with it.
I'm very optimistic.
I've heard that too, and I do take it to heart. I want to be excited, but I'm just too cynical at the moment. I'm remembering the conversations on the Roland Emmerich thread that popped up recently about how Disney is resorting to a lot of nostalgia tripping and camping instead of telling good stories. I hope that the cast and crew get a lot of distance between them and the executives on the creative front.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, DiMaggio is in negotiations but hasn’t closed a deal. I trust that they’ll work something out with him, he’s probably going to use the fan outrage as leverage to get himself a better deal.
Yeah, I'm seeing that as the news keeps breaking. It seems he'll play the games he feels like he needs to in order to get what he wants out of the deal, which is fine I guess. Again, not screaming "YES" about the announcement in the first place, more of a "interesting, we'll see where it goes" sort of feeling from me.