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Liam Hemsworth will replace Henry Cavill as Geralt of Rivia in season 4 of The Witcher

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    hungariantoast
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    Not gonna lie I think this is a disaster for the show, but I also didn't think Cavill was going to do a good job as Geralt. I actually turned out to like him in the role so maybe this won't be a...

    Not gonna lie I think this is a disaster for the show, but I also didn't think Cavill was going to do a good job as Geralt. I actually turned out to like him in the role so maybe this won't be a bad thing.

    I'm definitely convinced that this show should have just been animated though. Not because of this news, but for a lot of different reasons:

    • Nightmare of the Wolf was beautiful
    • Animated shows can deal with dark fantasy stories like this really well
    • Castlevania is amazing
    • There's a ton of source material to get through

    It would (probably) be way cheaper to produce six or seven seasons of an animated Witcher show than a live action one, and (probably) take less time as well. I guess the major downside would be it wouldn't have as many viewers or conjure as many subscribers for Netflix? This show especially seems to have been a bit of a phenomenon for "regular people" who didn't know anything about the books or the games. Cavill probably had something to do with that, and it probably wouldn't have happened without him as a live-action Geralt.

    Still, if not for the profit, at least for the sake of the art itself, I think the best way to adapt giant stories like The Witcher, is through animation. I could never imagine a live-action Invincible. It would probably suck. I firmly believe Walking Dead would have been better as an animated show, and has only survived as long as it has because it was at one point a "cultural phenomenon"... for some reason.

    Or maybe I just like animated shows more 🤷‍♂️

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    1. DanBC
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      So, it turns out that Cavill is a passionate fan of the source material and really wanted to do a good show, but was put with writers who hated it and joked about how bad it was. It's quite sad, I...

      So, it turns out that Cavill is a passionate fan of the source material and really wanted to do a good show, but was put with writers who hated it and joked about how bad it was.

      It's quite sad, I think, because if he'd been given good writers we could have had a better show.

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      lou
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      I don't know a lot of adult, western drama animation with more than two or three seasons. Maybe there's a practical reason for that. I low-key predicted that casting Cavill would bite them in the...

      I don't know a lot of adult, western drama animation with more than two or three seasons. Maybe there's a practical reason for that.

      I low-key predicted that casting Cavill would bite them in the ass. A-listers are expensive and eventually will receive good enough offers that will make it impractical for TV shows to cover. And who would figure a Netflix show would have a fourth season? That's probably the extent of his contract.

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      1. aphoenix
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        From what I have read on the matter (and little of it seems to have much in the way of a direct source so take it with a grain of salt) Cavill seems to be leaving because the show is not staying...

        A-listers are expensive and eventually will receive good enough offers that will make it impractical for TV shows to cover.

        From what I have read on the matter (and little of it seems to have much in the way of a direct source so take it with a grain of salt) Cavill seems to be leaving because the show is not staying true to the book source material. He was on record saying that he would happily stay for all seven seasons as long as they were telling great stories, and he talked a lot about how much he loved playing this character, and how much he loved the books, and how much he was clashing with the showrunners and what they were trying to do. So it might not be as much about the money available, or him being an A-list actor, and more about the fact that they aren't telling the story that he wants for Geralt of Rivia.

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        hungariantoast
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        Yeah I talked about that a little bit in my comment: "I guess the major downside would be it wouldn't have as many viewers or conjure as many subscribers for Netflix? This show especially seems to...

        I don't know a lot of adult, western drama animation with more than two or three seasons. Maybe there's a practical reason for that.

        Yeah I talked about that a little bit in my comment:

        "I guess the major downside would be it wouldn't have as many viewers or conjure as many subscribers for Netflix? This show especially seems to have been a bit of a phenomenon for "regular people" who didn't know anything about the books or the games. Cavill probably had something to do with that, and it probably wouldn't have happened without him as a live-action Geralt."

        But to elaborate: At least in the case of an animated Witcher show, I don't think it would be nearly as popular as what we got. However, I feel like there would still be enough viewers and subscribers to keep the animated show going, assuming the cost of making an animated show was less than the cost of making the live action series.

        I also just generally think that, for some stories, there's no practical way to adapt them to television, and actually tell the entire story, without making an animated show. Like, there's no way you're going to adapt the three million words of Worm and Ward into a show unless it's animated. There's just way too much content to cover. Sure, you could cut some of it out, but then I think you would be left with something way less special.

        Of course, I don't actually know enough about making television shows or animating things to talk about any of this definitively. This is all really just how I feel more than anything else.

        Finally, there are a couple of shows that fit your criteria, and have or will probably get at least three seasons or more:

        • Castlevania got four seasons (and there's another show on the way)
        • Love, Death & Robots got three seasons, with a fourth on the way
        • Invincible has one season out so far, renewed for two more
        • Arcane is getting a second season and almost certainly a third unless the story is supposed to wrap up
        • And of course, we can't forget about the best television show ever made, with six amazing seasons: BoJack Horseman

        That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.

        There are also plenty of animated shows that aren't necessarily "adult", but were fantastic and got more than three seasons, such as:

        • Star Wars: The Clone Wars got seven seasons, plus Tales of the Jedi, Bad Batch, and Rebels
        • Samurai Jack got five seasons
        • Infinity Train got four seasons
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          lou
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          I would definitely put Bojack more on the territory of comedy shows with a lot of drama. I really like Castlevania and Invincible, didn't see the rest. There's like two Clone Wars cartoons, maybe...

          I would definitely put Bojack more on the territory of comedy shows with a lot of drama. I really like Castlevania and Invincible, didn't see the rest.

          There's like two Clone Wars cartoons, maybe more? Which one are you talking about?

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            hungariantoast
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            The one with seven seasons
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            1. lou
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              Okay, nice. Maybe I'll check it out on Disney+. Is the other not good? I'm fond of Genndy Tartakovsky due to Dexter's Laboratory.

              Okay, nice. Maybe I'll check it out on Disney+. Is the other not good? I'm fond of Genndy Tartakovsky due to Dexter's Laboratory.

    3. FishFingus
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      Animation would've certainly alleviated the problems with dodgy CGI or downright awful costume design.

      Animation would've certainly alleviated the problems with dodgy CGI or downright awful costume design.

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