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Amazon’s Lord of the Rings TV show is set in the Second Age — here’s why that matters

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  1. dubteedub Link
    Here is what the Lord of the Rings fan wiki says about the Second Age: https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Age So it looks like this show will wrap up right at the end of the prologue for the...

    Here is what the Lord of the Rings fan wiki says about the Second Age:

    The Second Age lasted for 3441 years and ended with the downfall of Sauron's army when he was defeated by the Last Alliance of Elves and Men following the downfall of Númenor.

    This age was characterized by the rise (eventually with increased insolence) of Númenor, the rise of Sauron in Middle-earth, the creation of the Ringwraiths, and the early wars of the Rings between Sauron and the Elves. The Ring of Power also came into existence during this period.

    https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Age

    So it looks like this show will wrap up right at the end of the prologue for the first LOTR movie, which is pretty neat.

    8 votes
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    mrnd (edited ) Link
    The map points to the Second Age of Arda, most notably presenting Elven realm of Eregion and their capital, Ost-In-Edhil intact. This heavily implies that the show's story starts with the forging...

    The map points to the Second Age of Arda, most notably presenting Elven realm of Eregion and their capital, Ost-In-Edhil intact. This heavily implies that the show's story starts with the forging of the Rings of Power. The Twitter descriptions and timings (7, 3, 9 and 1 days between updates) also point to this direction.

    My guess is that the series shows this, and progresses through desctruction of Númenor and into the Last Alliance.

    If this is the case, it also confirms two things: It's at least not directly about Aragorn (perhaps about his lineage though?) and more importantly they've gotten new rights from the Tolkien Estate. The map shows names not present in Hobbit/LotR, and also the history of Second Age would be very thin based on previously licensed material.

    8 votes
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      Maven Link Parent
      What does the twitter comment intervals have to do with anything?

      What does the twitter comment intervals have to do with anything?

      3 votes
      1. [2]
        Firara Link Parent
        The twitter update intervals corresponds to the ring poem in LoTR. 7 as in the 7 rings gifted to the dwarves, 3 rings kept by the elves, 9 rings given to men and the one ring forged by sauron. The...

        The twitter update intervals corresponds to the ring poem in LoTR. 7 as in the 7 rings gifted to the dwarves, 3 rings kept by the elves, 9 rings given to men and the one ring forged by sauron.

        The rings were forged during the second age hence hinting that the show would take place in the second age.

        8 votes
        1. Maven Link Parent
          Oh dang, I can't believe I missed that.

          Oh dang, I can't believe I missed that.

          2 votes
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    Arshan Link
    I am warily excited for this series. Amazon is pouring money into it, which doesn't mean it will be good, but at least it shows they aren't going to half-ass production value. I am also really...

    I am warily excited for this series. Amazon is pouring money into it, which doesn't mean it will be good, but at least it shows they aren't going to half-ass production value. I am also really glad that they are probably going to be setting it in the Second Age. I am mainly happy because it is largely an empty space, especially compared to the First or Third age. I was partly hoping they would base it on "Children of Hurin" because it is the most novel story Tolkien ever wrote. It is also super fucked up, so I understand why they wouldn't base a show on it. Either way, I am an ex-huge Tolkien nerd, so as long is more Minis Tirith and less (barrel scene)[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM7byUTrSZA], I will be content.

    5 votes
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      spctrvl Link Parent
      For links, do brackets first, and then parentheses. And yeah, I am a little worried given how the hobbit trilogy turned out, but I am cautiously optimistic. I just hope they don't go for the game...

      Either way, I am an ex-huge Tolkien nerd, so as long is more Minis Tirith and less (barrel scene)[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM7byUTrSZA], I will be content.

      For links, do brackets first, and then parentheses. And yeah, I am a little worried given how the hobbit trilogy turned out, but I am cautiously optimistic. I just hope they don't go for the game of thrones style grittiness in a way that detracts from what you might call the Tolkienness of the setting.

      4 votes
      1. Arshan Link Parent
        Ha, thanks, I always mix it up. I would seriously recommend "Children of Hurin" if you are worried that Tolkien can't be gritty. I am also pretty sure the "The Hobbit" disaster was mostly...

        Ha, thanks, I always mix it up. I would seriously recommend "Children of Hurin" if you are worried that Tolkien can't be gritty. I am also pretty sure the "The Hobbit" disaster was mostly studio-based, which seems like something Amazon could solve.

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      2. mrnd Link Parent
        By default I'm skeptical of any adaptations. But. The Tolkien Estate seems to be involved this time around, and I'd assume they required some assurances before approving new rights to Amazon. That...

        By default I'm skeptical of any adaptations. But. The Tolkien Estate seems to be involved this time around, and I'd assume they required some assurances before approving new rights to Amazon. That gives me some amount of hope. We'll see.

        2 votes