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13 more days until GoT, what are the best endgame theories you've heard?

Personal favorite, is that Bran is the Night King, way long shot and probably not possible to explain with only six episodes

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  1. [10]
    Sahasrahla Link
    In the books and the show they've been building up to Daenerys turning into a villain but I don't know if they're going to go through with it. She's a fan favourite and there's a chance her "break...

    In the books and the show they've been building up to Daenerys turning into a villain but I don't know if they're going to go through with it. She's a fan favourite and there's a chance her "break the wheel" talk is a straightforward attempt by the writers to set up her as a liberator and saviour. If she does turn into a villain I'm going to guess she'll burn King's Landing like her father tried to.

    As for who will sit the Iron Throne: I'm guessing no one. (And no, I don't mean Arya.) I think the Seven Kingdoms will split up (not necessarily into Seven) and the Iron Throne will become powerless. If someone does claim it I don't think they'll rule anything except for maybe around King's Landing area which may or may not have been burned to ash anyway. Best guess for someone claiming a worthless Iron Throne: Daenerys if she survives, Tyrion otherwise.

    There is a chance I suppose that they'll play things completely safe. In that case Daenerys will sit the Iron Throne as a benevolent queen, Jon Snow/Targaryen will be her husband so they can continue the Targaryen line, and either Tyrion or Missandei will be the hand. That wouldn't be my favourite ending but by this point I'll be happy to have any ending at all.

    8 votes
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        KapteinB Link Parent
        Something horrible is going to happen, something to rival the Red Wedding. I see in the flames a dragon burning Winterfell to the ground, with Sansa and several fan favourites inside it. Jon will...

        Something horrible is going to happen, something to rival the Red Wedding. I see in the flames a dragon burning Winterfell to the ground, with Sansa and several fan favourites inside it. Jon will attempt to avenge his family by killing Daenerys, but he will fail, and Jorah will kill him. Tyrion will succeed in killing her however, when he realises what a terrible queen she would be.

        Gendry somehow ends up on the Iron Throne. He quickly tires of the responsibility and develops a taste for wine and prostitutes.

        4 votes
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          Loire Link Parent
          So basically right back to the beginning again?

          So basically right back to the beginning again?

          3 votes
      2. Autoxidation Link Parent
        They filmed multiple endings as to keep even the actors and crew in the dark on which one is real. GRRM has previously stated the ending of the series will be bittersweet, similar to LOTR. I...

        They filmed multiple endings as to keep even the actors and crew in the dark on which one is real.

        GRRM has previously stated the ending of the series will be bittersweet, similar to LOTR. I suspect that either Jon or Dany will die, but not both, or maybe they both live but all the dragons die out in the world forever. Either way, it's GOT so I expect lots of character deaths in the final season.

        1 vote
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      hero0fwar Link Parent
      I really really really hope Daenerys is not on the throne, would be the weakest play imo

      I really really really hope Daenerys is not on the throne, would be the weakest play imo

      4 votes
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        Kelsier Link Parent
        Offtopic, but are you the heroOfwar from r/HQG?

        Offtopic, but are you the heroOfwar from r/HQG?

        3 votes
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          hero0fwar Link Parent
          yeah, the one and only http://i.imgur.com/lT222QF.gifv

          yeah, the one and only

          http://i.imgur.com/lT222QF.gifv

          3 votes
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            Kelsier Link Parent
            Dude I love your work. I mostly lurk around HQG but you make some of the best gifs :)

            Dude I love your work. I mostly lurk around HQG but you make some of the best gifs :)

            4 votes
  2. hungariantoast Link
    Jon Snow is going to murder Daenerys to reforge Lightbringer as Azor Ahai, The Prince That Was Promised. Change my mind. (Or, I guess that could be Jaime instead, whatever.) But no, seriously, I...

    Jon Snow is going to murder Daenerys to reforge Lightbringer as Azor Ahai, The Prince That Was Promised.

    Change my mind.

    (Or, I guess that could be Jaime instead, whatever.)

    But no, seriously, I have no clue. Part of me thinks there will be a time jump near the end of the season, because everything in the lore about the Long Night says it was a long winter, and I kind of don't think the show is going to have the Night King take eight seasons to start the next Long Night just to get fucking killed days into it, so I totally think there's going to be some time jumping going on.

    7 votes
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    mb3077 Link
    I personally don't see an ending that will satisfy me unfortunately. My response to any possible outcome would be "yeah.. alright.". I guess this is because what I enjoyed the most out of GOT was...

    I personally don't see an ending that will satisfy me unfortunately. My response to any possible outcome would be "yeah.. alright.". I guess this is because what I enjoyed the most out of GOT was the drama in King's landing, the political intrigue, the betrayals, the surprising revelations, the great dialogue, and the developing stories of individual characters. The whole dragons and prophecies stuff was the least interesting part for me. And unfortunately the ending will focus exactly on those things in one way or another. Even if we get Helm's Deep 2.0, sure I will enjoy it, but ultimately it won't be what I remember when I think about GOT/ASOIAF as a whole.

    5 votes
    1. Papaya Link Parent
      Yeah when I started the series and the books, I enjoyed the geopolitical aspects of them a lot. Ever since, the series went beyond the books, everything as turn much more simplistic and...

      Yeah when I started the series and the books, I enjoyed the geopolitical aspects of them a lot. Ever since, the series went beyond the books, everything as turn much more simplistic and straightforward. Just look at how Littlefinger died. In the books he was a threat because he controlled much of the supplies and had connections everywhere. In the series, he was just plotting to turn the characters against each other.
      It seems like they made it so that everything is possible in the series whereas I enjoyed it more when things were more realistic and dialed down.

      4 votes
  4. CALICO Link
    King's Landing will burn green by Cersei's hand. This will parallel the Mad King Aerys and his desire to burn them all. Cersei is unhinged, and growing fond of wildfire. She will move to detonate...

    King's Landing will burn green by Cersei's hand. This will parallel the Mad King Aerys and his desire to burn them all. Cersei is unhinged, and growing fond of wildfire. She will move to detonate all the wildfire below King's Landing as the armies of either the living or dead approach.

    Jamie will kill Cersei, only just too late to stop the flames. This brings his arc full circle, from the dishonorable Kingslayer caring for nothing in life but his sister, to the honorable Queenslayer willing to throw everything away to serve a higher ideal. A Lannister always pays his debts. Jamie's killing of King Aerys ended the 300-year Targaryen rule of Westeros, which allowed the Seven Kingdoms to fall apart and enabled the War of Five Kings, further devastating the land and its people. In paying what he owes, the throne falls from the Lannisters. Tyrion will refuses to rule, and with no trueborn Baratheon's, the throne goes back to the Targaryens. What was taken by his hand will be returned by his hand.

    Early in the series, Dany had a vision of the Red Keep broken, with snow or ash drifting inside, covering everything.
    Nobody will sit the Iron Throne.

    Jon will rule the Lands of Always Winter as the new Night King, having created a new pact with the Walkers after the slaying of the current Night King. His Stark blood ties him to the ancient Walker–Stark marriage pact of the Night's King, his Targaryen blood acting as a counterbalancing fire to the ice. The Walkers under Jon retreat North, and remain there forever under his reign. Jon is a tragic character. Everything that happens to him is counter to his desires, but he always does what is right having been raised by Ned.

    With the Walkers gone back to the North, and Queen Cersei dead, Dany will have Westeros to rule as she desires. Witnessing the death and destruction among the smallfolk, and lacking the triumphant victory she desired. Dany will organize a form of democracy to Westeros, working with the advice of Tyrion, without a throne and realizing how much a Monarchy is to the slavery she despises.

    Who fucking knows with anything else. D&D have bollocks'd-up damn near everything not central to the main plot from what we know, and without books to guide them it is surely a mess.

    5 votes
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    Adys Link
    My favourite theory (not as in the one I'd like to see but the most fun to think about) is that Jon will sit in the iron throne as King of the Night. But in general I like the theory that nobody...

    My favourite theory (not as in the one I'd like to see but the most fun to think about) is that Jon will sit in the iron throne as King of the Night.

    But in general I like the theory that nobody will sit in it. I never quite got the impression that Essos was under the Iron Throne's power, and the North kinda does its own thing too. If Kings Landing burns, which seems likely, then there isn't much to rule over.

    2 votes
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      Loire Link Parent
      Why would Essos be under the thrall of the iron throne? It's the seat of the ruler of the seven kingdoms which are all in Westeros.

      Why would Essos be under the thrall of the iron throne? It's the seat of the ruler of the seven kingdoms which are all in Westeros.

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      1. Adys Link Parent
        That was kinda my point. 90% of the show happens between Essos, King's Landing and the North. If Essos is not part of the equation in the first place and King's Landing burns, what's there to rule...

        That was kinda my point. 90% of the show happens between Essos, King's Landing and the North. If Essos is not part of the equation in the first place and King's Landing burns, what's there to rule over (from a viewer's perspective)? The Starks de facto rule the North. It would be very … underwhelming, you know?

        Come to think of it, in the show, I really never got the impression the Iron Throne had any power beyond King's Landing. Think about it: We see the Iron Islands which are clearly their own thing, we see Casterly Rock which is controlled by the Lannisters anyway. What else do we see for any meaningful amount of time? The Citadel?

  6. cap Link
    I just wonder how long they are gonna spend on the Night King, I hope they dont just straight up kill him in the first 2 episodes. Hopefully they would split up the season into the first 4...

    I just wonder how long they are gonna spend on the Night King, I hope they dont just straight up kill him in the first 2 episodes. Hopefully they would split up the season into the first 4 episodes are dealing with the Night King/other matters that would happen in Winterfell, then the last episodes deal with events in Kings Landing. There would still be snippets of kings landing in episode 1-4 just not the main focus, as for the ending I think Jon Snow would die at the end and Dany would live, they did say the ending would be bitter sweet fyi.

    1 vote
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    mrbig Link
    Resuming watching season 5 just to come back in order to participate in this thread. That's because I heard so many bad things about season 6 I kinda gave up on GOT.

    Resuming watching season 5 just to come back in order to participate in this thread. That's because I heard so many bad things about season 6 I kinda gave up on GOT.

    1. Autoxidation Link Parent
      Ultimately it's still a great show. The quality of the writing dipped a bit when they ran ahead of the books but it's still one of the best shows available IMO.

      Ultimately it's still a great show. The quality of the writing dipped a bit when they ran ahead of the books but it's still one of the best shows available IMO.

      3 votes
    2. GoodbyeBlueSky Link Parent
      Season 6 is great, just nowhere near GoT great because DnD are good at adapting, not creating their own original storylines.

      Season 6 is great, just nowhere near GoT great because DnD are good at adapting, not creating their own original storylines.

      1 vote