I'm a little saddened by this. I'm still excited for the series, and I don't fault them for the choice, but guess I'd really been hoping for some optimism. I know the world is burning, I face that...
I'm a little saddened by this. I'm still excited for the series, and I don't fault them for the choice, but guess I'd really been hoping for some optimism.
I know the world is burning, I face that reality every day, and I face the fact that I'm all but powerless to fix it. I already see this reflected in most of the media that surrounds me, whether factual or fictional. I don't want vapid escapism, but I do want a change from gritty realism: I want The Next Generation, I want The West Wing, I want a thoughtful, well written series to remind us what we can aspire to.
I read this as a suggestion that it'll focus on protecting that optimistic vision, still having its sights set on the same ideals but exploring the difficulties of gripping onto it as it starts to...
I read this as a suggestion that it'll focus on protecting that optimistic vision, still having its sights set on the same ideals but exploring the difficulties of gripping onto it as it starts to fall apart. That's already something that's common to address in Trek, but this sounds like it'll take it a step further.
Maybe that's just me being overly optimistic myself, though. Maybe it will just be Trek but EDGY. I hope not.
This was my take on the interview as well. Just because things aren't ideal at the moment doesn't mean that we can't work to make them better (and hopefully succeed!)
This was my take on the interview as well. Just because things aren't ideal at the moment doesn't mean that we can't work to make them better (and hopefully succeed!)
Yeah, things getting bad before they got better was explicitly part of the timeline. Been watching Deep Space 9 lately and it was things taking a turn for the worst (the mentally ill, poor, and...
Yeah, things getting bad before they got better was explicitly part of the timeline. Been watching Deep Space 9 lately and it was things taking a turn for the worst (the mentally ill, poor, and jobless being locked away in camps) that pushed things to improve.
That's sad. I suppose the minimum I can hope for here is that Picard becomes the person who convinces the leaders of the Federation to become inclusive and open again. However, based on what...
"The Federation" has swung isolationist, and the new Picard is very different.
That's sad. I suppose the minimum I can hope for here is that Picard becomes the person who convinces the leaders of the Federation to become inclusive and open again. However, based on what little I've seen so far, it looks more like Picard becomes a rogue action hero out to do good.
And then he became involved in a huge refugee problem.
Hello, Romulans. Of course Picard became involved when the Romulan homeworld got destroyed and millions of Romulans suddenly found themselves without a home, a centre, or a capital.
Yeah, I wish I could be as optimistic as @Whom and the others, but based on all the trailers released so far, it looks like this series is just going to be another of your typical modern scifi...
Yeah, I wish I could be as optimistic as @Whom and the others, but based on all the trailers released so far, it looks like this series is just going to be another of your typical modern scifi shows; "Dark" (both tonally and lighting-wise), "gritty" (i.e. depressing), and "dramatic" (i.e. lots of people yelling at each other, making stupid decisions, and occasionally crying), with "action packed excitement" (i.e. lots of over the top CGI space battles and explosions). The whole "chosen one" aspect of the former Borg character, Dahj, especially worries me too, since it's just so damn cliche.
Time will tell, I guess... but I very much doubt Picard will reflect anything close to Roddenberry's optimistic and aspirational vision of the future, and fear it will likely be very similar (if not identical) to Discovery in terms of tone and piss poor writing quality. :(
I think what will happen is that we'll see an isolationist Federation drawing away from a problem, while Picard and a few other do-gooders try to convince the Feds to help. Eventually (within...
I think what will happen is that we'll see an isolationist Federation drawing away from a problem, while Picard and a few other do-gooders try to convince the Feds to help. Eventually (within Episode 1), Picard will give up and decide to go rogue. He'll gather himself a small band of heroes, and they'll go off to help - without the Feds' blessing.
This will allow the optimists to point to Picard and his band of Merry Men (and Women and Non-Gendered Aliens) and say "See? There's the positivity and aspiration! Picard hasn't lost his vision. The series is about good people doing good things, which is what Star Trek is all about."
Meanwhile, others will point to the adventures that the Merry Men (etc) get into and say "Look how exciting and action-packed this show is! Ka-pow! Bang!"
It'll be neither fish nor fowl, and it won't quite satisfy anyone.
Not that it matters to me. There's no release date for Australia, and it might not end up on a streaming service I'm subscribed to.
In the time since I've posted this, they've made the audio from the interview available. I definitely recommend listening, since it covers stuff that's not in the text.
In the time since I've posted this, they've made the audio from the interview available. I definitely recommend listening, since it covers stuff that's not in the text.
I'm a little saddened by this. I'm still excited for the series, and I don't fault them for the choice, but guess I'd really been hoping for some optimism.
I know the world is burning, I face that reality every day, and I face the fact that I'm all but powerless to fix it. I already see this reflected in most of the media that surrounds me, whether factual or fictional. I don't want vapid escapism, but I do want a change from gritty realism: I want The Next Generation, I want The West Wing, I want a thoughtful, well written series to remind us what we can aspire to.
I read this as a suggestion that it'll focus on protecting that optimistic vision, still having its sights set on the same ideals but exploring the difficulties of gripping onto it as it starts to fall apart. That's already something that's common to address in Trek, but this sounds like it'll take it a step further.
Maybe that's just me being overly optimistic myself, though. Maybe it will just be Trek but EDGY. I hope not.
This was my take on the interview as well. Just because things aren't ideal at the moment doesn't mean that we can't work to make them better (and hopefully succeed!)
Yeah, things getting bad before they got better was explicitly part of the timeline. Been watching Deep Space 9 lately and it was things taking a turn for the worst (the mentally ill, poor, and jobless being locked away in camps) that pushed things to improve.
That's sad. I suppose the minimum I can hope for here is that Picard becomes the person who convinces the leaders of the Federation to become inclusive and open again. However, based on what little I've seen so far, it looks more like Picard becomes a rogue action hero out to do good.
Hello, Romulans. Of course Picard became involved when the Romulan homeworld got destroyed and millions of Romulans suddenly found themselves without a home, a centre, or a capital.
Yeah, I wish I could be as optimistic as @Whom and the others, but based on all the trailers released so far, it looks like this series is just going to be another of your typical modern scifi shows; "Dark" (both tonally and lighting-wise), "gritty" (i.e. depressing), and "dramatic" (i.e. lots of people yelling at each other, making stupid decisions, and occasionally crying), with "action packed excitement" (i.e. lots of over the top CGI space battles and explosions). The whole "chosen one" aspect of the former Borg character, Dahj, especially worries me too, since it's just so damn cliche.
Time will tell, I guess... but I very much doubt Picard will reflect anything close to Roddenberry's optimistic and aspirational vision of the future, and fear it will likely be very similar (if not identical) to Discovery in terms of tone and piss poor writing quality. :(
I think what will happen is that we'll see an isolationist Federation drawing away from a problem, while Picard and a few other do-gooders try to convince the Feds to help. Eventually (within Episode 1), Picard will give up and decide to go rogue. He'll gather himself a small band of heroes, and they'll go off to help - without the Feds' blessing.
This will allow the optimists to point to Picard and his band of Merry Men (and Women and Non-Gendered Aliens) and say "See? There's the positivity and aspiration! Picard hasn't lost his vision. The series is about good people doing good things, which is what Star Trek is all about."
Meanwhile, others will point to the adventures that the Merry Men (etc) get into and say "Look how exciting and action-packed this show is! Ka-pow! Bang!"
It'll be neither fish nor fowl, and it won't quite satisfy anyone.
Not that it matters to me. There's no release date for Australia, and it might not end up on a streaming service I'm subscribed to.
In the time since I've posted this, they've made the audio from the interview available. I definitely recommend listening, since it covers stuff that's not in the text.