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72nd Emmy Awards nominations announced - HBO's Watchmen takes the top spot for program nominations with twenty-six

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  1. [7]
    tomf
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    A shame to see Rhea Seehorn and Jonathan Banks get snubbed for Better Call Saul. Also, Tim Blake Nelson should have been up for Watchmen would have been a good nod.

    A shame to see Rhea Seehorn and Jonathan Banks get snubbed for Better Call Saul. Also, Tim Blake Nelson should have been up for Watchmen would have been a good nod.

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      ThatFanficGuy
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      One of the things I dislike about awards like is that you get a sense of being "snubbed" when your favorite show doesn't win. Not your fault that you feel this way, but this kind of format does...

      One of the things I dislike about awards like is that you get a sense of being "snubbed" when your favorite show doesn't win. Not your fault that you feel this way, but this kind of format does fascilitate that one little bit of adversity and competitiveness that I don't see a benefit for creative work.

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      1. [5]
        tomf
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        yeah, also the way they score it isn't really the best. Typically the third best wins if the first two are really close. Not to mention the politics behind the actual nominations themselves. It's...

        yeah, also the way they score it isn't really the best. Typically the third best wins if the first two are really close. Not to mention the politics behind the actual nominations themselves. It's just a shame to see some of the best performances of the year left out.

        But I love pools and look forward to any award show where people are willing to participate.

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          ThatFanficGuy
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          Wouldn't it be nicer if they awarded all the good ones at once, instead of picking "the best", whatever the subjective metric for that is? Everyone from the BrBa/Better Call Saul cast deserved it,...

          Wouldn't it be nicer if they awarded all the good ones at once, instead of picking "the best", whatever the subjective metric for that is? Everyone from the BrBa/Better Call Saul cast deserved it, from the rookiest rookie to Walter White.

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            kfwyre
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            I've been saying this for years now! On the one hand, it adds prestige when there is a single award winner and including more can dilute that achievement, but media is now so widespread and...

            I've been saying this for years now! On the one hand, it adds prestige when there is a single award winner and including more can dilute that achievement, but media is now so widespread and diverse that having a single spot for only one winner feels very limiting. I'd love for more awards of all types to take an approach of "here are all the people we felt met a very high bar".

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            1. ThatFanficGuy
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              Thank you for verbalizing it.

              "here are all the people we felt met a very high bar"

              Thank you for verbalizing it.

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          2. tomf
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            well, for that they would get outstanding _____ series. All of these categories are voted on by their peers, so there's at least some sense of 'right'. Some shows have a few standout performances,...

            well, for that they would get outstanding _____ series.

            All of these categories are voted on by their peers, so there's at least some sense of 'right'. Some shows have a few standout performances, where the others are fairly standard.

            It is like any award for any industry. If you're a top in sales for GM, your dealership shouldn't get the salesmaster award, even though there are plenty in the infrastructure that contributed to your success. They have awards for those, too. Those with exceptional talent deserve to be singled out.

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    mat
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    I couldn't even get to the end of the first episode of Watchmen. Seriously strong opening sequence, perhaps one of the best ever - but Lindelof always starts very well and drops off sharply....

    I couldn't even get to the end of the first episode of Watchmen.

    Seriously strong opening sequence, perhaps one of the best ever - but Lindelof always starts very well and drops off sharply. Although it usually takes him more than half an hour. He's my least favourite screen writer by some distance.

    I wasn't aware Dead To Me was a comedy. It's not very funny. It is very good.

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    1. nothis
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      I hate Lost with a passion but loved Watchmen, ironically because all its weird plot points worked towards a sensible conclusion (very, very much unlike Lost). No idea how that happened, Lindelof...

      I hate Lost with a passion but loved Watchmen, ironically because all its weird plot points worked towards a sensible conclusion (very, very much unlike Lost). No idea how that happened, Lindelof usually is a warning sign for me, too! It's probably worth another try?

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    2. Douglas
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      imo the show's greatest weakness was how much it relied on building up a framework of intrigue, and that likely has to do with how much I hate Lindelof for not being good about paying off his...

      imo the show's greatest weakness was how much it relied on building up a framework of intrigue, and that likely has to do with how much I hate Lindelof for not being good about paying off his hooks. That and I generally hate "crashed party" writing wherein you're just thrown into the deep end and you have to figure it all out as the show goes on.

      That said... I think because this was a contained miniseries, and (hopefully) because Lindelof has learned his lesson, all of the intrigue is answered over time, and I did enjoy it.

      I just wish it was told with a little less... spunk?

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    Douglas
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    It earned 'em! ...also guess I have to watch Succession now? Even though the marketing is terrible and the premise doesn't seem all that appealing watching fatcats go toe-to-toe. Though I do love...

    It earned 'em!

    ...also guess I have to watch Succession now? Even though the marketing is terrible and the premise doesn't seem all that appealing watching fatcats go toe-to-toe. Though I do love Brian Cox.

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    1. AnthonyB
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      There was a time last year where every comment I posted was about Succession. It is by far the best show on TV and it toes the line between comedy and drama similar to early Breaking Bad or Fargo....

      There was a time last year where every comment I posted was about Succession. It is by far the best show on TV and it toes the line between comedy and drama similar to early Breaking Bad or Fargo. It is a bit of a slow burn in the beginning, but things really get moving by episode five and it doesn't stop. Also, just a fair warning, you will most likely hate every character after the first episode. That's intentional, but if you stick with the show you will find yourself liking most, if not all of them. Part of that is the writing, but the actors really do an incredible job highlighting the redeeming qualities of their characters, as evidenced by the fact that almost every actor with a major role earned an Emmy nomination. I loved Watchmen - it really stuck with me for a while and I desperately wanted more when it was over, but Succession is on a different level.

      2 votes
    2. [2]
      wundumguy
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      Did you say this on reddit too? I'm asking because I was imagining replying with a lame joke like "you love Brian what? Hur hurr" but then I didn't because that's stupid and now I'm seeing this...

      Did you say this on reddit too? I'm asking because I was imagining replying with a lame joke like "you love Brian what? Hur hurr" but then I didn't because that's stupid and now I'm seeing this comment again and I need to know I'm not crazy, just dumb

      1. Douglas
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        Ha! You're not crazy. I did indeed make the same comment. I've liked Brian Cox since Long Kiss Goodnight and appreciated he had a sense of humor to be in Super Troopers. Then there's The Bourne...

        Ha! You're not crazy. I did indeed make the same comment.

        I've liked Brian Cox since Long Kiss Goodnight and appreciated he had a sense of humor to be in Super Troopers. Then there's The Bourne Supremacy, X-Men 2, and let's not forget Mahunter and the Manhunt video game.

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