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    1. Le Bureau des Légendes/The Bureau (2015 - 2020) is a 10/10 show

      I don't know how well known this show is. Maybe I'm saying something obvious, like "hey, have you all heard about The Wire?", but in most of my social group this completely slipped under the...

      I don't know how well known this show is. Maybe I'm saying something obvious, like "hey, have you all heard about The Wire?", but in most of my social group this completely slipped under the radar. Since the beginning of the war in Ukraine I started following discussions about geopolitics and international conflicts on our local discussion board, and in there it's the opposite, apparently everyone knows it.

      It's a show about deep undercover agents working for DGSE, the french equivalent of CIA.

      It has two main layers. Firstly it's apparently quite accurate with regards to how real intelligence agencies work, plus it's obviously strongly inspired by real events. It mostly deals with ISIS, but also with Russia, relations between France and the US and other issues. This is very interesting on its own.

      Secondly it's basically a psychological drama/thriller. The lives of undercover agents consist of constantly lying, constantly being on guard and never fully trusting anybody, and there cannot be a tangible division between their professional and their personal lives because they can never fully switch off. And human failures in their profession, whether small or large, cannot be fully avoided.

      The premise of this whole show is exploring how those failures happen and what are their consequences. And those consequences are often terrible, so it's sometimes a heavy show to watch.

      What I love about The Bureau is how it's all relatively civil, showing things without exaggeration, overly emotional music or other stylization. I want to say it's very un-american in this aspect, and on one hand mean that, I'm incredibly tired of film makers beating me over the head with horrible things like slow motion shots accompanied by emotionally simplistic music, as if I'm too stupid to understand what I'm supposed to feel simply from what's happening in the story.

      But at the same time The Wire is also american and it's a good example of a show that does the exact opposite (and I love it for that). The Bureau does not go as far as The Wire, if only because human emotions are a much bigger focus of the show. However it is much closer in style and in quality to The Wire than to some imaginary "hollywood average". Overall it doesn't feel like it's playing tricks on you. People die and suffer horribly, and sometimes it is characters you love, but it doesn't feel like some cheap "ha! I got you, I bet you're devastated now!" and it doesn't happen often, for shock value (edit: actually suffering does happen all the time, but killing off characters does not).

      In addition to the style feeling quite fresh in the context of mainstream cinematography, it's full of great and outside of France relatively unknown actors. They make it easy to fall in love with many of the characters. The characters have layers and development and nobody is black and white, it's a delight to watch them.

      I'm putting it next to The Wire, Better Call Saul or Breaking Bad as a 10/10 show.

      13 votes
    2. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

      Warning: this post may contain spoilers

      Have you watched any TV shows recently you want to discuss? Any shows you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

      Please just try to provide fair warning of spoilers if you can.

      8 votes
    3. Recommend me a sappy TV drama with preferably >100 episodes

      I like crying to sappy bingeworthy tv dramas. I've just finished Parenthood, and before that I binged a lot of hospital ones like The good doctor, New Amsterdam, etc. The setting isn't really...

      I like crying to sappy bingeworthy tv dramas.

      I've just finished Parenthood, and before that I binged a lot of hospital ones like The good doctor, New Amsterdam, etc.

      The setting isn't really important, except I can't stand law enforcement settings.

      Spoken language doesn't matter as long as I can find it with subtitles.

      The important thing seems to be stories that are reasonably realistic where people live their lifes and care about each other.

      What do you recommend?

      Edit: below is a list of recommendations, mostly for me to have an easy spot to find them

      • Bunheads
      • Friday night lights
      • March Comes In Like a Lion
      • This is us
      • Shitt's creek
      • The crown
      • Brothers and sisters
      • Scrubs
      • Midnight Diner
      • The good place
      • Virgin river
      • Gilmore girls
      • Dawson's creek
      16 votes
    4. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

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      Have you watched any TV shows recently you want to discuss? Any shows you want to recommend or are hyped about? Feel free to discuss anything here.

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      9 votes
    5. What are some examples of media that really captured lightning in a bottle?

      I've been feeling nostalgic and watching some old Top Gear recently. It has got me thinking about how remarkable the chemistry between the three hosts is and how the combination of those three,...

      I've been feeling nostalgic and watching some old Top Gear recently. It has got me thinking about how remarkable the chemistry between the three hosts is and how the combination of those three, the time that top gear ran, and the format they chose created such an incredibly successful and wide-reaching show. Despite many efforts no one has been able to make a car show to rival it.

      What are some other examples of this sort of phenomena? Where the right time, place, people and format come together to create something extraordinary? Doesn't have to be television necessarily, but given the example that spurred this question I figured this wasn't a bad place to post.

      31 votes
    6. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

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      9 votes
    7. Started watching Adolescence

      Its a heavy show but three episodes in, I'm loving the single shot approach that they took. Without cuts, it's all about the pace of the drama, the honesty of each beat and the quality of the...

      Its a heavy show but three episodes in, I'm loving the single shot approach that they took.

      Without cuts, it's all about the pace of the drama, the honesty of each beat and the quality of the performance. That, and I haven't seen a show tackle toxic masculinity in quite this way and I'm super here for it.

      Has anybody else seen it? What did you think?

      18 votes
    8. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

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      9 votes
    9. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

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      6 votes
    10. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

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      7 votes
    11. TV Tuesdays Free Talk

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      12 votes
    12. Just rewatched “Brené Brown: Atlas of the Heart”, a five-episode series explaining thirty emotions

      My thoughts on the show An overarching theme of the show is that we aren’t very good at naming our emotions when we’re feeling them and that it’s important to learn the vocabulary for our emotions...

      My thoughts on the show

      An overarching theme of the show is that we aren’t very good at naming our emotions when we’re feeling them and that it’s important to learn the vocabulary for our emotions and call them by their right names.

      Call stress stress, not overwhelm. (Are you “in the weeds” or “blown”?)

      Call vulnerability vulnerability, not anxiety.

      Call awe and wonder awe and wonder.

      When we name what we’re feeling, we open up so much more agency and freedom to guide our lives in the direction we want them to go. Language is a portal.

      I found this show moving and illuminating when I first watched it in 2022 and it was moving and illuminating all over again when I rewatched it over the past few days.

      Awe and wonder are two of the emotions that stick out to me. These are not words I used regularly before watching the show. I use them now. I think I used to believe these emotions were nice to feel and a good part of life, but kind of like the icing on the cake. I have come to see them as necessary nutrients in the human emotional diet, more core and more central than I thought before.

      Maybe we can’t feel awe and wonder very often, but maybe like the elephants who walk long distances to lick the salt off cave walls, it’s something we need in our diet and should go out of our way to feel.

      I have a copy of Brené Brown’s book Atlas of the Heart, which the TV series is based on, and it mentioned that, among other things, experiences of awe and wonder make people more willing to cooperate with each other. Doesn’t that sound like something we need in this world?

      Where to watch

      Brené Brown: Atlas of the Heart is streaming on HBO Max in the U.S. and parts of Europe and Latin America, on Crave in Canada, on Binge in Australia, and on Sky in New Zealand.

      HBO Max: https://www.max.com/shows/brene-brown-atlas-of-the-heart/dfad262e-b764-4b92-ae63-72886f8a0d81

      Crave: https://www.crave.ca/en/tv-shows/brene-brown-atlas-of-the-heart

      List of countries and streaming services where the show is available: https://brenebrown.com/find-the-series-outside-of-the-us/

      JustWatch, a generally useful tool for this sort of thing: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ajustwatch.com+Brené+Brown+Atlas+of+the+Heart

      13 votes
    13. I've been enjoying a few tropes in 1970s TV shows

      I've been watching some TV shows from the 1970s recently. I've noticed a few tropes that I find pretty amusing. One of tropes is how often someone "slips a mickey" to someone else in the show. By...

      I've been watching some TV shows from the 1970s recently. I've noticed a few tropes that I find pretty amusing.

      One of tropes is how often someone "slips a mickey" to someone else in the show. By this, I mean that someone is given a drink that has a drug in it that causes the character to pass out. There is always a certain way this is portrayed by the director. The screen gets out of focus and then the camera tilts in strange directions.
      In the first 3 episodes of The Rockford Files, this scene happens twice. Once it is done by Rockford himself (well, his client does it for him), and the next time it is done to him by one of the other characters.

      A variation of this is getting hit on the back of the head with something, usually a handgun. This always reliably knocks out the person without long term injury.

      Another trope is the scene of a character driving up to a location, getting out, and walking into a building. In a modern show, this would maybe be done in a few seconds just as an establishing shot. But in 1970s television, this shot could last a few minutes. It's very obvious that they are trying to fill some time. These scenes are very noticeable in shows like Columbo when they went to a 90 minute format.

      A variation of the "person walking" trope is when we only see the legs and shoes of the person who is walking. This is so that the audience doesn't know the identity of the person walking yet. It usually turns out to be a bad guy and there will be a crime done by the end of the scene. Sometimes we continue looking at the feet while the crime is in progress, and sometimes we zoom out to see who is doing it.

      24 votes