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MIT scraps diversity statements in faculty-hiring process

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  1. [9]
    cfabbro
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    https://www.nationalreview.com/author/james-lynch/ Author's previous articles for the Daily Caller (Tucker Carlson's former rag): https://dailycaller.com/author/JLynch/ Wow, that sure is a lot of...
    • Exemplary

    https://www.nationalreview.com/author/james-lynch/

    James Lynch is a News Writer for National Review. He was previously a reporter for the Daily Caller.

    Author's previous articles for the Daily Caller (Tucker Carlson's former rag):
    https://dailycaller.com/author/JLynch/

    Wow, that sure is a lot of Hunter Biden shit... But I'm sure this latest National Review article by the same author will be "fair and balanced", and totally not biased at all! /s

    p.s. Posting a blatantly right-wing biased National Review article, on a rather contentious subject, to Tildes after the comment section about it already went to shit on HN.... WTF, @Adys?

    41 votes
    1. [8]
      skybrian
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      I didn't see any mainstream newspapers picking it up, which ordinarily makes me suspicious. However, they got a statement from an MIT spokesperson, which seems like a useful thing to do and...

      I didn't see any mainstream newspapers picking it up, which ordinarily makes me suspicious. However, they got a statement from an MIT spokesperson, which seems like a useful thing to do and standard journalistic practice. It's an improvement on the link shared on Hacker News, which was thinly sourced.

      I briefly skimmed the story itself and it seems to be written as a news article, not an opinion piece. Did you see anything wrong with it?

      7 votes
      1. [7]
        cfabbro
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        Maybe you should do more than just skim... The deliberate framing and wording of nearly everything in the article is blatantly biased as fuck, IMO. Criticism of Israel's recent actions in Gaza...

        I briefly skimmed the story itself.... Did you see anything wrong with it?

        Maybe you should do more than just skim... The deliberate framing and wording of nearly everything in the article is blatantly biased as fuck, IMO.

        The campus climate at MIT and Korbluth herself came under intense scrutiny when she testified before Congress last year and struggled to say definitively if calls for genocide against Jews violated campus policies. She testified alongside former University of Pennsylvania president Liz Magill and former Harvard University president Claudine Gay about the explosion of campus antisemitism following Hamas’s civilian massacre in Israel.

        Criticism of Israel's recent actions in Gaza does not necessarily = antisemitism. And funny how the article only mentions Hamas' actions but not Israel's, which is what is generally being protested on campuses.

        During her testimony, Kornbluth said she does not believe “speech codes” work to promote an environment of free expression on campus.

        Magill resigned shortly after she gave similar testimony to Kornbluth’s regarding campus antisemitism. Similarly, Claudine Gay resigned in disgrace after her congressional testimony on antisemitism and a plagiarism scandal that implicated much of Gay’s academic output.

        The "plagiarism scandal" started by this shithead? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/14/christopher-rufo-jonatan-pallesen-eugenics-racism-claudine-gay-harvard

        IIRC, you even posted an article yourself about how Rufo's allegations of plagiarism were BS:
        https://samkriss.substack.com/p/before-i-reach-my-enemy-bring-me

        House lawmakers on the Education and Workforce Committee are now investigating antisemitism at MIT and other elite colleges and universities. Anti-Israel tent encampments have sprouted at numerous college campuses over the past few weeks as Israel continues its war effort against Hamas.

        Anti-Israel tent encampments... seriously?

        Required diversity statements have received significant criticism for making prospective faculty members pledge allegiance to diversity, equity, and inclusion ideology. These statements appear to violate principles of academic freedom and intellectual diversity in higher education by mandating adherence to progressive orthodoxy.

        "Pledge allegiance to DEI ideology", "adherence to progressive orthodoxy"... seriously?

        Yeah, no bias here! No siree! /s

        20 votes
        1. stu2b50
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          Eh, I think the "pledge allegiance" part is pretty national review-y, but the statements from the Harvard president I think would be hard to characterize as merely "anti-zionist" or...

          Eh, I think the "pledge allegiance" part is pretty national review-y, but the statements from the Harvard president I think would be hard to characterize as merely "anti-zionist" or "anti-israeli". It was a flub criticized by the full political spectrum, not just republicans.

          Specifically, they were asked if "calling for the genocide of the Jewish people" would be a violation of the Code of Conduct, and I can't possibly see how the answer to that is anything but "yes". "Calling for the genocide of the Jewish people" is not a particularly nuanced statement. It's pretty, uh, anti-semitic.

          Gay, Magill and MIT’s president, Sally Kornbluth, came under fire last month for their lawyerly answers to a line of questioning from New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, who asked whether “calling for the genocide of Jews” would violate the colleges’ codes of conduct.

          Gay said it depended on the context, adding that when “speech crosses into conduct, that violates our policies.” The answer faced swift backlash from Republican and some Democratic lawmakers as well as the White House. The hearing was parodied in the opening skit on “Saturday Night Live.”

          From AP

          It seems like the NR "got the scoop", so to say, so it'll probably be a few days before other publications ask MIT about it. I only found MSN, but they just source the NR article.

          8 votes
        2. [5]
          unkz
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          What's happening != criticism of Israel https://www.campusreform.org/article/uc-berkeley-student-speaks-horrific-day-jewish-students-says-freshman-female-choked-violent-protest-watch/24998 That's...

          Criticism of Israel != antisemitism, and funny how they only thing they mention is Hamas' actions not Israel's, which is what is being protested.

          What's happening != criticism of Israel

          https://www.campusreform.org/article/uc-berkeley-student-speaks-horrific-day-jewish-students-says-freshman-female-choked-violent-protest-watch/24998

          Sobkin said the third individual was pulled into the crows by the protesters, who were “yelling at him, screaming and calling him slurs, calling him a dirty Jew and trying to spit on him.”

          That's not criticism of Israel, that's clear antisemitism, and it's indefensible.

          6 votes
          1. Drewbahr
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            It should be noted that calling someone slurs is most definitely indefensible antisemitism. It should also be noted that that single person at one event does not represent the whole of the...

            It should be noted that calling someone slurs is most definitely indefensible antisemitism.

            It should also be noted that that single person at one event does not represent the whole of the movement against the Israeli government given their actions in Gaza.

            Both of those things should go without saying, but ... here we are.

            12 votes
          2. [3]
            cfabbro
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            Got a better source than "Campus Reform"? From their about section: See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_Reform

            Got a better source than "Campus Reform"? From their about section:

            Mission

            Campus Reform, a project of the Leadership Institute, is America’s leading site for college news.

            As a conservative watchdog to the nation’s higher education system, Campus Reform exposes liberal bias and abuse on the nation’s college campuses. Our team of professional journalists works alongside student activists and student journalists to report on the conduct and misconduct of campus administrators, faculty, and students. Campus Reform holds itself to rigorous journalism standards and strives to present each story with accuracy, objectivity, and public accountability.

            See also:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership_Institute
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campus_Reform

            8 votes
            1. [2]
              unkz
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              Sure, it's possible to criticize the source -- there are other sources....

              Sure, it's possible to criticize the source -- there are other sources.

              https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/uc-berkeley-jewish-student-event-violent-protest-palestinian-gaza-zellerbach-hall-suspect-photos/

              On Monday, UC Berkeley Police described the event as a "riot" and said "members of the crowd forced their way into the building, injured guests and police officers, and caused property damage. Two incidents were classified as hate crimes."

              The UC Berkeley Police Department is asking for help identifying this person suspected of committing one or more criminal acts during a riot at a campus event hosted by a Jewish student organization at the Zellerbach Playhouse in Berkeley on Feb. 26, 2024. UC Berkeley Police Department via Bay City News

              UC Police have released pictures of subjects they hope to identify with the public's help, who they believe "committed one or more criminal acts during the course of this event."

              https://jweekly.com/2024/03/26/cal-police-release-photos-of-five-suspects-from-feb-26-riot-at-uc-berkeley/

              Video shared widely on social media showed demonstrators outside Zellerbach Playhouse pounding on the glass entrance until it broke. As protesters forced their way into the venue, Jewish students and the speaker were shuttled through a back exit and an underground hallway to evacuate the building safely.

              Two Jewish students reported injuries. Senior Vida Keyvanfar said she was flung down while trying to barricade a door, spraining her thumb, and freshman Brooke Resnik said she was grabbed around her neck. A third student, junior Elijah Feldman, said he was called slurs and spat at.

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              1. cfabbro
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                Thanks, CBS is far more reputable. Although dismissing every anti-Israel protest happening on campuses around the US as being "antisemitic" due to a few isolated incidents of actual antisemitism...

                Thanks, CBS is far more reputable. Although dismissing every anti-Israel protest happening on campuses around the US as being "antisemitic" due to a few isolated incidents of actual antisemitism and violence is rather absurd, IMO.

                12 votes
  2. [2]
    skybrian
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    Here's an article that talks about companies backing off on DEI, or at least avoiding the name: Under mounting legal and political pressure, companies’ DEI tactics are evolving (Washington Post)

    Here's an article that talks about companies backing off on DEI, or at least avoiding the name:

    Under mounting legal and political pressure, companies’ DEI tactics are evolving (Washington Post)

    7 votes
  3. [8]
    Deely
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    MIT will no longer require diversity statements in its faculty-hiring process, making it the first elite university to abandon the practice.

    Required diversity statements have received significant criticism for making prospective faculty members pledge allegiance to diversity, equity, and inclusion ideology. These statements appear to violate principles of academic freedom and intellectual diversity in higher education by mandating adherence to progressive orthodoxy.

    4 votes
    1. [7]
      RheingoldRiver
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      I can totally understand the opinion "DEI statements are kind of bullshit and everyone just bullshits on them" but the idea that promoting DEI is somehow orthogonal to academic freedom....? If...

      I can totally understand the opinion "DEI statements are kind of bullshit and everyone just bullshits on them" but the idea that promoting DEI is somehow orthogonal to academic freedom....? If you're that concerned about academic freedom, fix the pressure on faculty to seek grants & publish regularly, and let them do research that might not be useful for a long time, or even just spend time reproducing other published results. I don't see how you can be fine with that but not fine with requiring promoting DEI.*

      *(I do see, people are racist)

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      1. [6]
        unkz
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        We can’t fix this problem without fixing this other problem first? Are they fine with it? I think the problems with the pressure to publish and replication are well known and not controversial.

        If you're that concerned about academic freedom, fix the…

        We can’t fix this problem without fixing this other problem first?

        I don't see how you can be fine with that …

        Are they fine with it? I think the problems with the pressure to publish and replication are well known and not controversial.

        5 votes
        1. [5]
          Drewbahr
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          Given the context of the conversation, it sounds like you feel that DEI is a problem? Am I reading that correctly? Because I'm not convinced that's the case.

          We can’t fix this problem without fixing this other problem first?

          Given the context of the conversation, it sounds like you feel that DEI is a problem? Am I reading that correctly? Because I'm not convinced that's the case.

          5 votes
          1. [4]
            unkz
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            I do think that mandatory DEI statements are a problem.

            I do think that mandatory DEI statements are a problem.

            6 votes
            1. [3]
              Drewbahr
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              Why?

              Why?

              4 votes
              1. [2]
                unkz
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                I think that any form of compelled speech is a problem.

                I think that any form of compelled speech is a problem.

                5 votes
                1. Drewbahr
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                  I'm not sure that I agree that a DEI statement constitutes "compelled speech", but I tend to agree. I'm also not certain how we, as a nation, would ever get past our past without some form of...

                  I'm not sure that I agree that a DEI statement constitutes "compelled speech", but I tend to agree.

                  I'm also not certain how we, as a nation, would ever get past our past without some form of "compelled speech" as you've put it. Affirmative Action could be viewed as compelled speech, as could the ADA.

                  7 votes