8 votes

Benny Gantz concedes to Netanyahu

7 comments

  1. [7]
    babypuncher Link
    I know next to nothing about Israeli politics, but how on Earth was Netanyahu able to secure re-election after being indicted on bribery and fraud charges?

    I know next to nothing about Israeli politics, but how on Earth was Netanyahu able to secure re-election after being indicted on bribery and fraud charges?

    5 votes
    1. [6]
      Diet_Coke Link Parent
      I'm no expert but from what I understand opposition is fragmented, the left/progressive parties have collapsed, and enough Israelis support the Netanyahu/Trump relationship that it pushed him over...

      I'm no expert but from what I understand opposition is fragmented, the left/progressive parties have collapsed, and enough Israelis support the Netanyahu/Trump relationship that it pushed him over the top.

      I just have to say, I really hope these chickens come home to roost for leaders like Netanyahu or MBS who are exploiting the temporary rule of the Trump regime.

      3 votes
      1. [4]
        FaxTax Link Parent
        Things might not be great for Netanyahu after the charges are handed over to lawyers working on the case. Also, he has to rally support still in order to get a sufficient number of seats for his...

        Things might not be great for Netanyahu after the charges are handed over to lawyers working on the case. Also, he has to rally support still in order to get a sufficient number of seats for his party; the charges will not help with that, especially if they are proven substantial.

        1 vote
        1. [3]
          alyaza Link Parent
          it's going to be a pain in the ass for him but no, i'm pretty sure he's got his seats unless something drastic changes in the absentee votes. just partnering up with shas, united torah judaism,...

          Things might not be great for Netanyahu after the charges are handed over to lawyers working on the case. Also, he has to rally support still in order to get a sufficient number of seats for his party; the charges will not help with that, especially if they are proven substantial.

          it's going to be a pain in the ass for him but no, i'm pretty sure he's got his seats unless something drastic changes in the absentee votes. just partnering up with shas, united torah judaism, and the new right (who have already been in a coalition with him since 2015) gets him to 56, and i presume yisrael beteinu will provide the remaining 5 for the necessary 61 seeing as likud partnered with them once before too. they might demand more of him, but most of the right-wing parties aren't moderately right wing and it doesn't really benefit the lot of them to try and strongarm netanyahu.

          2 votes
          1. [2]
            FaxTax Link Parent
            Yeah, it is looking pretty good for him unless something happens with the charges. We will have to see.

            Yeah, it is looking pretty good for him unless something happens with the charges. We will have to see.

            1. alyaza Link Parent
              the other thing with that is that apparently most of his allies are trying to get a law passed to give him immunity, so throwing him under the bus at this point would be somewhat bizarre.

              the other thing with that is that apparently most of his allies are trying to get a law passed to give him immunity, so throwing him under the bus at this point would be somewhat bizarre.

              1 vote
      2. alyaza Link Parent
        [absentees haven't been counted so these numbers might change before everything's done, but...] more or less. israelis are apparently cool with the policy status quo (not necessarily the political...

        I'm no expert but from what I understand opposition is fragmented, the left/progressive parties have collapsed, and enough Israelis support the Netanyahu/Trump relationship that it pushed him over the top.

        [absentees haven't been counted so these numbers might change before everything's done, but...]

        more or less. israelis are apparently cool with the policy status quo (not necessarily the political status quo or else B&W wouldn't have done so well), and most of the people who aren't can't legally vote in israeli elections to begin with. those who can saw their main hopes get dunked on pretty hard last night, because of the leftist/left-wing/arab parties, the only one which didn't get wiped was hadash (a marxist-leninist party) and ta'al (their arab partner), which kept their joint six seats. ra'am-balad (one half of the former arab joint list parties) got shellacked and lost three seats, meretz (a left-wing, two-state green party) lost one seat, and israeli labor got blown the fuck up and lost thirteen.

        most of the not-policy-status-quo votes either got functionally cancelled out by israeli turnout, or cannibalized by the centrist blue and white party. overall, very little has really changed in the distribution between the "right wing" parties and "everybody else" overall (i think the right wing parties as a whole might have generously added one seat to their overall total), but since blue and white are really only marginally better than likud on most of what people care about with respect to israel, and the largest two-state party now has a paltry six-seats (labor was previously the largest on like 22 or something), you're probably going to see some changes in policy.

        1 vote