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    i feel like we should point out that this is an alleged thing by the jerusalem post (not a confirmed thing like the current title is implying, although they might have changed it after you...

    i feel like we should point out that this is an alleged thing by the jerusalem post (not a confirmed thing like the current title is implying, although they might have changed it after you posted?) and they unfortunately do not seem to demonstrate their sourcing here, which makes double checking problematic since they're not exactly a neutral source in this whole affair themselves, but this is actually a bit of a moot point because this is actually not reporting on the same issue to begin with that has been bandied about here on tildes, but an entirely separate incident that took place on a different day in a different place with only similar circumstances.

    so, there have been two cases where a pregnant woman was killed in gaza in the past few days: one occurred on saturday, may 4th, involving the pregnant woman in the OP article, and one occurred on sunday, may 5th, which is the one i cited in the last thread.

    the saturday, may 4 incident is cited as having occurred to a 37 year old woman named falestine abu arar and her 14 month old relative. as near as i can tell, this took place in gaza city and killed four people. the IDF has officially disputed that this was done by a hamas rocket misfiring, and this is the crux of the JPost article.

    Al Jazeera gives the following details:

    Ibtessam Abu Arar, aunt of Siba, the 14-month old infant who died in the Israeli raid, said: "The Israeli plane fired a missile near the house and the shrapnel entered the house and hit the poor baby."
    Siba was being held in the lap of her pregnant aunt Falestine Abu Arar, 37, who was also struck. She died from her wounds hours later, the health ministry said in a statement.
    Earlier, it was mistakenly reported that Falestine was Siba's mother.
    The Israeli military denied responsibility for the two deaths, blaming a misfiring of a Hamas rocket.

    the sunday, may 5 incident, which is the one that was brought up in the last thread, is cited as having occurred in beit lahiya and having killed 33 year old amani al madhoun along with two men. no child is mentioned in the Times of Israel/AP slide on it:

    3 Gazans, including pregnant woman, said killed in Israeli airstrike
    Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry says three Palestinians, including a pregnant woman, have been killed in an Israeli airstrike.
    The ministry says that Amani al-Madhoun, 33, was killed along with two men, one of them a relative. It says she was nine months pregnant.
    The airstrike occurred in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Lahiya. Further details were not immediately available.

    the IDF has not commented on this one to my knowledge, nor has it seemingly disputed what happened with this case.

    it's understandable that these two events have been confused, given the timeframe and the details, but this is not the issue we've been talking about, and with respect to the incident the article itself is talking about i think it's a bit disingenuous to treat the reporting here like it absolutely confirms it was a hamas rocket when we can't even see what or who they're using to support the notion that it was a hamas rocket that misfired (and JPost again do have their own biases worth bearing in mind). this is something that probably needs a bellingcat article, not what is functionally digital hearsay.

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