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Nathan Berman has helped rescue Manhattan’s financial district from a “doom loop” by carving attractive living spaces from hulking buildings that once housed fields of cubicles

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  1. skybrian
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    We’ve previously discussed the difficulties of converting office buildings to residential housing. The New Yorker has a profile of a developer who specializes in it: … … … … … … … … …

    We’ve previously discussed the difficulties of converting office buildings to residential housing. The New Yorker has a profile of a developer who specializes in it:

    Since 1997, Berman, through his firm, Metro Loft Management, has turned eight Manhattan office towers into rental-apartment complexes, adding some five thousand units to the city’s housing stock. His company has just signed a contract for the largest conversion yet in the United States: Pfizer’s former headquarters, on East Forty-second Street, will be refashioned to house about fifteen hundred apartments.

    All his apartments are market-rate properties, so what he creates is élite but ordinary, luxurious but cramped, permanent but marginal. Avinash Malhotra, an architect who has done several conversions with Berman, noted that a single office tower can be carved up into hundreds of little units, as in a hotel. “He is not making housing for the homeless,” Malhotra said. “But I often joke among my employees that what we do is slums for the rich.”

    For the past three years, about twenty-two per cent of office space in New York has gone unrented—that’s a hundred million vacant square feet, the equivalent of nearly thirty-five Empire State Buildings. For the owners of half-empty towers, it’s become increasingly apparent that a new financial strategy is needed.

    Converting offices into apartments won’t be a panacea for New York’s real-estate titans: there is simply too much square footage that is going unused, and this will be a problem as long as companies continue switching to smaller premises. Berman told me, “If we ultimately absorb twenty per cent of the office space, that would be optimistic.” But, he added, conversions will energize neighborhoods that otherwise would be among the worst hit, like the financial district. There, Berman foresees apartments replacing half the empty offices.

    In his business, a crucial metric for turning a profit is the time lag between borrowing construction money and renting out units. So he works fast.

    Renters are now used to the layouts of chain hotels, where there’s one window by the bed, so Berman’s bathrooms and kitchens didn’t need to be sunny, and the kitchens could have a minimal footprint. “Our demographic doesn’t cook,” he said. He referred to the other rooms without windows as “home offices.” Now that working from home was common, I observed, such spaces were likely to get a lot of use. He smiled, then said that many would wind up as bedrooms. This is technically forbidden, because in New York City every bedroom must have a window that can be opened, but it’s a widespread practice nonetheless. Berman laid out a rental scenario: “Imagine two or three Goldman Sachs associates who came to New York just after college and want a little bit more spending money.” (In real-estate ads, a one-bedroom with a windowless office is often called a “convertible two-bedroom.”)

    What are left are postwar structures—many with deep, dark interiors, low ceilings, and scant visual appeal. Berman did what he could to add comfort to such buildings while holding on to his wallet. He could repurpose extra elevator shafts as garbage chutes, for example. In one building, he turned elevator-shaft spaces into foyers for a line of apartments.

    Residents would be provided with compact hvac units under certain windows, as in a motel. These units required much less space than the old systems, and were far more energy-efficient. Berman noted that 55 Broad would be the first all-electric, emission-free apartment building in Manhattan. This was not only environmentally beneficial; it also saved him the cost of inserting thousands of feet of piping into concrete floors.

    As expensive as these projects may seem, the cheaper cost of repurposing an old building can allow rental prices to be set lower than they would be in a new one. Berman estimated the minimum monthly rent for a studio apartment in a new lower-Manhattan building at well over four thousand dollars, whereas a comparable apartment in 55 Broad will go for about thirty-five hundred. Although this is a considerable sum for one person, it’s not especially expensive by Manhattan standards, and, as Berman acknowledged, many of his units will end up being shared.

    He stressed to me that he is not particularly interested in what goes on inside the apartments, or in what the tenant experience is like. “A renter is not a condominium owner,” he told me several times. He isn’t trying to re-create 443 Greenwich Street, his celebrity-friendly condo development, with its wine cellar and tiled hammam. “Our profile is a young person,” he said. “Maybe twenty-four, twenty-five, who stays one or two years, maybe three. They’re not committing.” His clients are in the city-hopping phase of life: “ ‘O.K., next year, the year is up and I’m going because I need to be in Boston, or I need to be in Chicago, or I’m going to San Francisco.’ ” Berman had considered improving 55 Broad’s dated façade, but decided that it was money poorly spent. “Renters pay less attention to these things,” he said.

    He focusses only on buildings built before certain years—1977 below Murray Street, and 1961 for the rest of Manhattan—because they can be converted without special variances. (Conversions have long been restricted in Manhattan because sudden population surges in residential neighborhoods can crowd schools and overwhelm public transport.) “Life is short,” he told me. “I don’t want to wait two or three years for rezoning.” A current zoning-change proposal, which Mayor Eric Adams supports, would allow any building in New York built before 1990 to be converted. It would add to the pool of potential apartments nearly as much office space as there is in all of Philadelphia. Berman hopes that the zoning change will become law by the end of the year.

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    Maelstrom
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    I stayed in an office building converted into a hotel in Amsterdam and hated every minute of it. Adding plumbing into an exisiting building can be challenging so they have some creative solutions....

    I stayed in an office building converted into a hotel in Amsterdam and hated every minute of it. Adding plumbing into an exisiting building can be challenging so they have some creative solutions. In this case the whole bathroom was an enclosed module with the water heater and cistern built into its floor. What this meant was very loud plumbing, very short showers and very uncomfortable toilet activities due to how audible it all was. Also the module was fairly flimsy and creaked a ton, making a night time bathroom trip sure to wake up your partner.

    My coworker’s experience was even worse as their room faced towards another office building whose lights were on all night.

    Similar story with insulation, offices and residential are just built different.

    He stressed to me that he is not particularly interested in what goes on inside the apartments, or in what the tenant experience is like.

    Speaks volumes.

    I’m sure there’s better methods than what I experienced and I’m not against repurposing buildings, though from what I’ve seen I wouldn’t want to live there unless I really had no other options.

    Given the state of Sydney’s housing supply there’s merit to implementing it here, however I expect it would be more likely to end up squeezing more service workers into substandard conditions than anything else.

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    1. NaraVara
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      The cheap residential apartments in New York aren’t much better than what you’re describing. Loud plumbing and creaky radiators are normal. Unmaintained, dingy bathrooms and cramped, unnavigable...

      Speaks volumes. I’m sure there’s better methods than what I experienced and I’m not against repurposing buildings, though from what I’ve seen I wouldn’t want to live there unless I really had no other options.

      The cheap residential apartments in New York aren’t much better than what you’re describing. Loud plumbing and creaky radiators are normal. Unmaintained, dingy bathrooms and cramped, unnavigable spaces as well.

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    Yeah, this tracks. We have discussed the issues of translating old office buildings to housing before because primarily of how it wouldn't meet code. This developer isn't doing something...

    He smiled, then said that many would wind up as bedrooms. This is technically forbidden, because in New York City every bedroom must have a window that can be opened, but it’s a widespread practice nonetheless.

    Yeah, this tracks.

    We have discussed the issues of translating old office buildings to housing before because primarily of how it wouldn't meet code.

    This developer isn't doing something impressive and clever, he is knowingly ignoring code. Building codes exist for a reason and we should not applaud blatant ignoring of it.

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      skybrian
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      He’s following code but ignoring something tenants commonly do, which is somewhat different. An apartment having a windowless room apparently isn’t a building code violation since you could use it...

      He’s following code but ignoring something tenants commonly do, which is somewhat different. An apartment having a windowless room apparently isn’t a building code violation since you could use it as a home office.

      Maybe there should be changes to how these apartments are advertised? This probably would end up with a UI where people search on the total number of bedrooms plus office rooms, instead of putting a 2 in the “number of bedrooms” field.

      And a second question is whether anyone should do anything to keep tenants from violating the spirit of the building code by using an office as a bedroom. If you have one bedroom and two people on the lease, and they’re not in a relationship, maybe that’s a giveaway?

      But my guess is that is that New York will have no enthusiasm for enforcing this on tenants, making housing more expensive for them, unless someone gets hurt by it.

      How much would it actually matter if there’s a fire? I’m no fire safety expert. I can imagine ways it could be bad (if the bedroom is locked). But usually, when an apartment is small, it’s not hard to go to another room in the same apartment in an emergency.

      Perhaps building codes are slightly too strict about tiny apartments, and under financial pressure from high rents, people have found a workaround.

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        papasquat
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        Well yeah. It's not hard to get around any part of an apartment building in an emergency, unless those parts are on fire or full of smoke. Smoke inhalation can knock you unconscious in 2 minutes....

        But usually, when an apartment is small, it’s not hard to go to another room in the same apartment in an emergency.

        Well yeah. It's not hard to get around any part of an apartment building in an emergency, unless those parts are on fire or full of smoke.

        Smoke inhalation can knock you unconscious in 2 minutes. In the amount of time it takes you to wake up, realize what's going on, freak out, jump out of bed, open the door, run through your smoke filled living room, go into your smoke filled bedroom, where some other person(s) are doing the same thing, open the window and get out, there's a very good chance you've already hit the floor.

        If the living room is on fire, you're not doing any of that. You're trapped, and all you can do is wait to die.

        There's a very good reason fire codes exist, especially in a place like New York city.

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          skybrian
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          Yep, that’s a bad scenario too. On the other hand, one would hope there are fire alarms going off well before it got that bad, and wouldn’t giant New York buildings have sprinklers? Imagination...

          Yep, that’s a bad scenario too. On the other hand, one would hope there are fire alarms going off well before it got that bad, and wouldn’t giant New York buildings have sprinklers?

          Imagination and speculation by non-experts isn’t enough, and that’s why blind adherence to fire codes has a lot going for it for practical decision-making by non-experts. You’re not supposed to speculate. But when the question is whether the fire codes are over-strict in a certain case, it’s a circular argument.

          It’s not up to us and it’s not something we’re likely to settle, either, so all I can say is that this common practice by tenants sounds bad, without knowing whether it really is.

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            papasquat
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            I mean, the experts are the ones that designed the fire codes, so by definition they're not over strict according to experts in the field. NYC isn't unique in that requirement either. Most (maybe...

            I mean, the experts are the ones that designed the fire codes, so by definition they're not over strict according to experts in the field. NYC isn't unique in that requirement either. Most (maybe even all?) states require egress windows in bedrooms. The international building code also does. It's not just an arbitrary quirk of a specific jurisdiction.

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              skybrian
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              Yes, but the argument that it’s the same internationally works both ways. International standards aren’t necessarily designed based on what’s safe in a specific situation. I think it would be...

              Yes, but the argument that it’s the same internationally works both ways. International standards aren’t necessarily designed based on what’s safe in a specific situation. I think it would be interesting to hear what various experts have to say about about these new apartments in New York.

              Why might it be important not to be overly strict? Because making less housing available has consequences, too: fewer people housed in any given building, and probably higher rents per person as a result. Relaxing the fire code can allow new building types like five-over-one housing, which has become quite popular in the US.

              Estimates about building capacity have wrinkles too. A one bedroom apartment is fine for a couple, and maybe they’d like an office? Bunk beds are another way to fit more people in. A building code doesn’t say how people live. (There are other fire regulations for that.)

              We’ve had a similar discussion recently about whether the US should allow single-stair apartments. I don’t think we can settle questions like that since they’re pretty technical, so I’m just pointing out that tradeoffs exist.

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              1. myrrh
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                ...international building code is an american code designed by americans for the american market: it evolved from an early twenty-first century merger of the disparate BOCA, southern, and uniform...

                ...international building code is an american code designed by americans for the american market: it evolved from an early twenty-first century merger of the disparate BOCA, southern, and uniform building codes and is rigorously updated every three years to address the contemporaneous development and construction industries in the united states...

                ...IBC follows evidence-based best practices and routinely culls cruft where appropriate...

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            2. tibpoe
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              In my profession, I see lots of stuff that's unnecessarily strict or over-complicated, even though it was written by experts! What ends up happening is you have something designed for a different...

              In my profession, I see lots of stuff that's unnecessarily strict or over-complicated, even though it was written by experts!

              What ends up happening is you have something designed for a different time, when the constraints and environment are different. And now some of those things no longer apply, but there's no appetite to go back and re-evaluate things since there is a risk of getting things wrong, and other high priority things to take care of.

              I see the fire code in many circumstances being the same way. What's in it for these experts to re-evaluate the old code? Their name in the news when an incident occurs, even if that incident's probability was correctly calculated and below the agreed risk threshold?

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          2. Eji1700
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            Doesn't really change the smoke issue in many kinds of fires. Just because you're awake, wet, and there's loud noises doesn't mean you're going to instantly realize what you should do, navigate...

            Yep, that’s a bad scenario too. On the other hand, one would hope there are fire alarms going off well before it got that bad, and wouldn’t giant New York buildings have sprinklers?

            Doesn't really change the smoke issue in many kinds of fires. Just because you're awake, wet, and there's loud noises doesn't mean you're going to instantly realize what you should do, navigate your way to the nearest window (in some other room), and make it out.

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