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Chevrolet Malibu heads for the junkyard as GM shifts focus to electric vehicles

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  1. [14]
    jonah
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    Another step in the direction towards having more EV's on the road. As a Malibu driver, I'm a little sad to see them go, but I'm all for increasing production of electric vehicles.

    Another step in the direction towards having more EV's on the road. As a Malibu driver, I'm a little sad to see them go, but I'm all for increasing production of electric vehicles.

    4 votes
    1. [13]
      JackA
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      The article is kind of a weird framing though no? They could absolutely just electrify the Malibu or introduce a separate midsize sedan EV but it's kinda subtlety framed as if they need to make...

      The article is kind of a weird framing though no? They could absolutely just electrify the Malibu or introduce a separate midsize sedan EV but it's kinda subtlety framed as if they need to make SUV's in order to shift focus to EV's.

      12 votes
      1. [10]
        unkz
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        That's not really how I read it. It sounds like people don't really want to buy midsize sedans, so they're focusing on what people actually want to buy -- SUVs and electric vehicles. Maybe I don't...

        That's not really how I read it. It sounds like people don't really want to buy midsize sedans, so they're focusing on what people actually want to buy -- SUVs and electric vehicles.

        Maybe I don't quite understand what you mean by "weird"?

        3 votes
        1. [8]
          Akir
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          I feel that people don't want to buy midsized sedans (let alone compact cars) precisely because there are so many oversized cars on the road and they wouldn't feel safe in anything else. As I...

          I feel that people don't want to buy midsized sedans (let alone compact cars) precisely because there are so many oversized cars on the road and they wouldn't feel safe in anything else. As I write this, I am facing a parking lot and is one large sedan and two trucks with hoods that are taller that the total height of that car. One gets the impression that if that sedan were to have a head-on collision with either of those trucks the driver and anyone in the passenger seat would die.

          13 votes
          1. Thrabalen
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            We had a minivan that, due to icy conditions, would up rear ending a SUV. The van was totaled because the hood went under the raised rear suspension. Wound up eventually (after another minivan)...

            We had a minivan that, due to icy conditions, would up rear ending a SUV. The van was totaled because the hood went under the raised rear suspension. Wound up eventually (after another minivan) with a Civic. Get an SUV? Screw that noise... the arms race of Bigger Better Faster Stronger is just going to eat last year's model, and the fuel efficiency is ridiculous... if I'm gonna die in a crash, I'm enjoying the time that comes before.

            That said, I agree that the vast majority of consumers thinks like you outlined, and it's killing the sedan and minivan market. Eventually, it's going to be all SUVs, with an almost enforced mandate to upgrade every two years or practically admit that the injuries from a resulting collision are your fault. The Canyonero era of vehicle manufacture.

            7 votes
          2. ButteredToast
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            Practicality may factor in too, and hatchbacks of any sort (SUV, wagon, or otherwise) are considerably more practical than sedans due to their larger, less restrictive cargo space and increased...

            Practicality may factor in too, and hatchbacks of any sort (SUV, wagon, or otherwise) are considerably more practical than sedans due to their larger, less restrictive cargo space and increased roof rack area. For vehicles that have both sedan and hatch versions (e.g. Mazda 3), the hatches tend to be a bit shorter too which can also be desirable.

            5 votes
          3. redwall_hp
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            P=mv, so remember to drive n+1% faster an SUV n% heavier than your sedan, so you can still kick their ass in a collision. Any survivability comes from being able to move a lighter car (turning it...

            P=mv, so remember to drive n+1% faster an SUV n% heavier than your sedan, so you can still kick their ass in a collision.

            Any survivability comes from being able to move a lighter car (turning it into a movable object instead of a stationary one). Two cars of equal weight and speed are effectively hitting a stationary object. If two cars of equal momentum collide, neither gives way, and the 60mph collision is more like hitting a brick wall at 120mph.

            (This should be considered for entertainment purposes only and is not legal advice.)

            3 votes
          4. [3]
            SirNut
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            Personally, I prefer either an suv or a truck because I frequently transport large bulky materials or lumber a few times monthly I also go camping in many places with rock trail roads that a sedan...

            Personally, I prefer either an suv or a truck because I frequently transport large bulky materials or lumber a few times monthly

            I also go camping in many places with rock trail roads that a sedan (or even some lower SUV’s) simply could not handle

            With that being said I do recognize that I am probably in the minority of people that use a larger vehicle

            3 votes
            1. [2]
              Akir
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              Yeah, that bugs me. I can practically guarantee that neither of those trucks I mentioned had ever hauled anything they couldn’t put in a compact car, and there is a good chance they won’t before...

              Yeah, that bugs me. I can practically guarantee that neither of those trucks I mentioned had ever hauled anything they couldn’t put in a compact car, and there is a good chance they won’t before they sell them. I didn’t check at the time but I would bet that they also had their completely unused trailer hitches installed too.

              3 votes
              1. SirNut
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                For what it’s worth, as a daily Jeep driver it also infuriates me when I see other jeeps that are lifted or tricked out, but I can tell they would never actually take it off road

                For what it’s worth, as a daily Jeep driver it also infuriates me when I see other jeeps that are lifted or tricked out, but I can tell they would never actually take it off road

                1 vote
          5. Parliament
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            This way of thinking has been around for a long time too. I remember my mom opting for a suburban in the early 90s over a minivan, then my dad would only consider an SUV when getting a car for my...

            I feel that people don't want to buy midsized sedans (let alone compact cars) precisely because there are so many oversized cars on the road and they wouldn't feel safe in anything else.

            This way of thinking has been around for a long time too. I remember my mom opting for a suburban in the early 90s over a minivan, then my dad would only consider an SUV when getting a car for my brother and me to share when we were teenagers. In both situations, it was an arms race mentality where they wanted us to be bigger and higher up than the car we would be hitting in a potential collision. My parents have driven SUVs ever since, and that same reasoning has still been brought up in the context of toting the grandkids around over 30 years later. It's like a massive prisoner's dilemma, but the automobile industry certainly preys on it.

            2 votes
        2. JackA
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          I don't know, I'm a fan of sedans (which are rapidly dying) so maybe I'm just defensive that the form factor change is being conflated and framed positively as part of the EV transition. I'm...

          I don't know, I'm a fan of sedans (which are rapidly dying) so maybe I'm just defensive that the form factor change is being conflated and framed positively as part of the EV transition. I'm willing to accept that I'm reading my own biases into it.

          4 votes
      2. babypuncher
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        Midsize sedans are a dying breed, ICE or EV. If I were considering a sedan, I would probably go for something smaller. Otherwise, I would want a crossover.

        Midsize sedans are a dying breed, ICE or EV. If I were considering a sedan, I would probably go for something smaller. Otherwise, I would want a crossover.

        2 votes
      3. MrFahrenheit
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        Well, they're retooling the Malibu plant to make Bolts, which are a smaller hatchback EV. I drive one and it's exceeded all my expectations. My biggest complaint is that it's too tall.

        Well, they're retooling the Malibu plant to make Bolts, which are a smaller hatchback EV. I drive one and it's exceeded all my expectations. My biggest complaint is that it's too tall.

        1 vote
  2. [4]
    tanglisha
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    Tangent: go.com? I thought domain names had to contain at least 3 letters.

    Tangent: go.com? I thought domain names had to contain at least 3 letters.

    1 vote
    1. [2]
      ButteredToast
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      Some people who had an iCloud account back when iCloud was still known as MobileMe still have a @me.com email address, so go.com is not alone in being a 2-letter domain.

      Some people who had an iCloud account back when iCloud was still known as MobileMe still have a @me.com email address, so go.com is not alone in being a 2-letter domain.

      4 votes
      1. jonah
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        Also x.com. All the old TLDs probably have no more two letter domain names left, and it's possible that when new TLDs are registered they reserve two letter domains for more established...

        Also x.com. All the old TLDs probably have no more two letter domain names left, and it's possible that when new TLDs are registered they reserve two letter domains for more established businesses. Just a guess, I actually have no idea.

        2 votes
    2. Akir
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      There is actually a fun bit of history behind that domain. Disney bought it ages ago during the .com bubble. It was part of a trend at the time where companies were branding all of their online...

      There is actually a fun bit of history behind that domain. Disney bought it ages ago during the .com bubble. It was part of a trend at the time where companies were branding all of their online properties together into some kind of “master domain”. A lot of those old sites will just redirect to their own domain, like disney.go.com will just go to disney.com, but some still work on those domains, like disneycruise.disney.go.com or, of course, abc.go.com.

      4 votes