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  1. Comment on Pete Seeger - John Brown's Body in ~music

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    Oct 16, 1859 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_last_speech

    Oct 16, 1859
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_last_speech

    I have, may it please the court, a few words to say.

    In the first place, I deny everything but what I have all along admitted, the design on my part to free the slaves. I intended certainly to have made a clean thing of that matter, as I did last winter, when I went into Missouri and there took slaves without the snapping of a gun on either side, moved them through the country, and finally left them in Canada. I designed to have done the same thing again, on a larger scale. That was all I intended. I never did intend murder, or treason, or the destruction of property, or to excite or incite slaves to rebellion, or to make insurrection.

    I have another objection; and that is, it is unjust that I should suffer such a penalty. Had I interfered in the manner which I admit, and which I admit has been fairly proved (for I admire the truthfulness and candor of the greater portion of the witnesses who have testified in this case), had I so interfered in behalf of the rich, the powerful, the intelligent, the so-called great, or in behalf of any of their friends, either father, mother, brother, sister, wife, or children, or any of that class, and suffered and sacrificed what I have in this interference, it would have been all right; and every man in this court would have deemed it an act worthy of reward rather than punishment.

    This court acknowledges, as I suppose, the validity of the law of God. I see a book kissed here which I suppose to be the Bible, or at least the New Testament. That teaches me that "all things whatsoever I would that men should do to me, I should do even so to them" [Matthew 7:12]. It teaches me, further, to "remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them" [Hebrews 13:3]. I endeavored to act up to that instruction. I say, I am yet too young to understand that God is any respecter of persons. I believe that to have interfered as I have done as I have always freely admitted I have done in behalf of His despised poor, was not wrong, but right. Now, if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I submit; so let it be done!

    Let me say one word further.

    I feel entirely satisfied with the treatment I have received on my trial. Considering all the circumstances and animosity toward me, it has been fair and more generous than I expected. But I feel no consciousness of guilt. I have stated from the first [day] what was my intention and what was not. I never had any design against the life of any person, nor any disposition to commit treason, or excite slaves to rebel, or make any general insurrection. I never encouraged any man to do so, but always discouraged any idea of that kind.

    Let me say, also, a word in regard to the statements made by some of those connected with me. I hear it has been stated by some of them that I have induced them to join me. But the contrary is true. I do not say this to injure them, but as regretting their weakness. There is not one of them but joined me of his own accord, and the greater part of them at their own expense. A number of them I never saw, and never had a word of conversation with, till the day they came to me; and that was for the purpose I have stated.

    Now I have done.

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  2. Comment on Details emerge of new right-wing coup plot in Bolivia in ~news

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    On Sunday footage circulated of what appeared to be a serving Bolivian soldier who claimed that Interior Minister Arturo Murillo was conspiring with army generals in a sinister plot to massacre indigenous people and launch a coup, should Mas win the election.

    The unidentified soldier said that Mr Murillo has armed paramilitaries with weapons and ammunition supplied by the US.

    “We have been ordered to shoot to kill indigenous people,” he appears to say in the recording.

    “We come from families in the countryside, and if we shoot indigenous people, it is the same as shooting our own parents or the parents of our soldiers who are doing military service.

    4 votes
  3. Comment on Phil Ochs - Lou Marsh in ~music

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    I was looking for the background on Lou Marsh and all I could find on wikipedia was some Canadian sports journalist with no mention of this incident. I eventually came upon this forum post with...
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    I was looking for the background on Lou Marsh and all I could find on wikipedia was some Canadian sports journalist with no mention of this incident. I eventually came upon this forum post with the same request for information. Someone dug up a few references and a former acquaintance of his shared some information.

    https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=98128

    Lou Marsh died in New York City at ten minutes after nine on the evening of January 9th, 1963.
    At first his death was not much noticed, although it would have been, had not the metropolitan newspapers been struck at the time. Not that Marsh was famous in a way the world would necessarily remember him, but his death was one of the more shocking homicides in memory, even in New York City. If there had been newspapers, at least the tabloids, in their own way, would have celebrated Lou's death.
    Lou worked for the New York City Youth Board, assigned to one of East Harlem's juvenile gangs, the self-styled Untouchables. I remember suggesting that he apply for such a job and later writing to the Youth Board authorities to recommend him for it. When he decided to take the job, he called to tell me of what he hoped to accomplish.
    Lou was beaten to death by four guys. He had somehow persuaded the gang - the Untouchables - not to go ahead with a rumble to which they had committed themselves against the Playboys, another gang in the neighborhood. Some of the older boys - alumni, so to speak, of one of the gangs in question - wanted the issue between the two gangs to be settled in the traditional way, according to the canons of gang society, by a rumble. They resented the fact that Lou mediated the dispute or at least accomplished an armistice. Evidently they were humiliated that the younger boys in the gangs followed Lou's counsel rather than their own. So they ambushed Lou and beat him savagely. He lived for two days in the hospital, unconscious. Then he died. One doctor told me that the damage to his brain was so severe and gruesome that if, by some chance, he had survived, he would probably not have been been able to function in any ordinary way as a human being. He most likely would have been grotesquely invalided, living on as a vegetable.
    Lou died, it seems, an awful death, but a death that was apparently somehow better for him and for those who loved him than mere survival would have been.
    Among those who knew of Lou's death, but did not know Lou, there were easy, stereotyped reactions. Mayor Wagner observed that this was the first time in fifteen years that a Youth Board worker had been slain in the line of duty and said that he was outraged. I am afraid that Lou would have been more amused than anything else at the mayor's vague promises to do something about the situation. In his own way, Lou was often quite cynical, but he certainly believed that the mayor was far more so.
    And, of course, there were cries for violence to answer the violence of Lou's death. One neighborhood newspaper carried the news of the killing and then editorialized that what was needed was more police, perhaps some extra squads specially trained in guerilla warfare, to rout and destroy the gangs.
    No one realized better than Lou how shrilly inadequate such responses were. He knew that the violence of gang society erupts from the deep frustration of kids who have gone through their whole conscious lives without homes, without fathers, without love, without much of anything. They could hardly have told themselves how much they had suffered, for they had endured by themselves, outside society, without the care of another human being except for the other guys in their gang. And except for Lou, or someone like him, who happened to come along once in a while.
    Lou, who had been involved earlier in some of the sit-ins, knew that violence cannot absolve violence, and he knew that the peril to everyone - not just to the gangs - of the police becoming an occupation army in the slum neighborhoods is greater than the danger to him or others in gang warfare.
    Besides, Lou knew what it means not to be loved by anybody and what it means not to be loved by everybody.
    Lou was a Negro.
    He was from a fairly poor family living in the North. He had to save on sleep and work incredibly hard - usually in menial jobs - but because he was intelligent and sensitive, he managed to get a very good education. When I first met him, about five years ago, he was a seminarian at Yale, one of the handful of Negroes who have made it that far. But he grew restless with his studies at Yale; perhaps he felt somehow guilty about being in such a place as Yale Divinity School at all, while his folks were still where they were and while his people were still where they were in this country. For a time, after he left seminary, Lou, in a terrible way, hated the fact that he was a Negro. It was more than feeling sorry for himself; it was as if he complained about his own creation, as if he was rejecting his own birth.
    It seemed for him, for a while, better not to live than to be a Negro in America.
    After leaving New Haven, he moved to New York City.....

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  4. Comment on Phil Ochs - Lou Marsh in ~music

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    LOU MARSH (Phil Ochs) On the streets of New York city when the hour was getting late There were young men armed with knives and guns, young men armed with hate And Lou Marsh stepped between them...

    LOU MARSH
    (Phil Ochs)

    On the streets of New York city when the hour was getting late
    There were young men armed with knives and guns, young men armed with hate
    And Lou Marsh stepped between them and died there in his tracks
    For one man is no army when the city turns its back

    CHORUS
    Now the streets are empty, now the streets are dark
    So keep an eye on shadows and never pass the park
    For the city is a jungle when the law is out of sight
    And death lurks in El Barrio with the orphans of the night

    He left behind a chamber of a church he served so long
    For he learned the prayers of distant men will never right the wrongs
    His church became an alley and his pulpit was the street
    He made his congregation from the boys he used to meet
    CHORUS

    There were two gangs approaching in Spanish Harlem town
    The smell of blood was in the air, the challenge was laid down
    He felt their blinding hatred, and he tried to save their lives
    And the answer that they gave him was their fists and feet and knives
    CHORUS

    Will Lou Marsh lie forgotten in his cold and silent grave?
    Will his memory still linger on, in those he tried to save?
    And all of us who knew him will now and then recall
    And shed a tear on poverty, tombstone of us all
    CHORUS

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  5. Comment on Phil Ochs - When I'm Gone in ~music

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    Excellent, I would have never found this if you hadn't shared it. Thanks.

    Excellent, I would have never found this if you hadn't shared it. Thanks.

    1 vote
  6. Comment on Phil Ochs - When I'm Gone in ~music

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    I just recently became aware of his work. I think this song must have been on a playlist that came up as I was exploring Victor Jara's discography on youtube. Last night, I was reading Ochs' wiki...

    I just recently became aware of his work. I think this song must have been on a playlist that came up as I was exploring Victor Jara's discography on youtube.

    Last night, I was reading Ochs' wiki page which explains that they were friends and that Jara's murder was a factor in Phil's decline.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Ochs

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  8. Comment on The Sugarcubes - Birthday in ~music

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    I was crazy about this song a few years ago. I started paying attention to the lyrics and it just makes me uncomfortable now. I used to listen to this album quite a bit and remember getting really...

    I was crazy about this song a few years ago. I started paying attention to the lyrics and it just makes me uncomfortable now.

    I used to listen to this album quite a bit and remember getting really annoyed by the other vocalist on some of the tracks. Such a stark contrast between Bjork's voice and some dude just weirdly ranting about things.

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  9. Comment on Are there any sailors on here? in ~hobbies

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    Just dinghy sailing, sunfish, hobie catamaran etc. I have a sailboard but haven't used it in several years. I've been intending to find property closer to water so I can get back into the hobby....

    Just dinghy sailing, sunfish, hobie catamaran etc. I have a sailboard but haven't used it in several years. I've been intending to find property closer to water so I can get back into the hobby. Feeling the wind pick up with a sail in my hand is honestly one of my favorite feelings in the world.

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  10. Comment on The United States is not entitled to lead the world in ~misc

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

    In 1957, Frederick L. Schuman wrote that the consequences of the expedition "were to poison East-West relations forever after, to contribute significantly to the origins of World War II and the later 'Cold War,' and to fix patterns of suspicion and hatred on both sides which even today threaten worse catastrophes in time to come."[129] For Soviet leaders, the operation was proof that Western powers were keen to destroy the Soviet government if they had the opportunity to do so.[130] Modern historian Robert Maddox summarised, "The immediate effect of the intervention was to prolong a bloody civil war, thereby costing thousands of additional lives and wreaking enormous destruction on an already battered society."[131]

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  11. Comment on Department of Justice designates New York City, Seattle, and Portland as “anarchist jurisdictions” in ~news

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    Eminent domain his properties in the city.

    Eminent domain his properties in the city.

    8 votes
  12. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~tech

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    https://keepassxc.org/docs/#faq-keepass Why KeePassXC instead of KeePass? KeePass is a very proven and feature-rich password manager and there is nothing fundamentally wrong with it. However, it...

    https://keepassxc.org/docs/#faq-keepass

    Why KeePassXC instead of KeePass?
    KeePass is a very proven and feature-rich password manager and there is nothing fundamentally wrong with it. However, it is written in C# and therefore requires Microsoft's .NET platform. On systems other than Windows, you can run KeePass using the Mono runtime libraries, but you won't get the native look and feel which you are used to.
    KeePassXC, on the other hand, is developed in C++ and runs natively on all platforms giving you the best-possible platform integration.

    Why KeePassXC instead of KeePassX?
    KeePassX is an amazing password manager, but hasn't seen much active development for quite a while. Many good pull requests were never merged and the original project is missing some features which users can expect from a modern password manager. Hence, we decided to fork KeePassX to continue its development and provide you with everything you love about KeePassX plus many new features and bugfixes.

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  13. Comment on Are illegal strikes justified? in ~talk

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    Beyond withholding labor, what constitutes a strike? Picketing? Obstruction? Excluding those additional features, I don't see how those parts of the Taft-Hartley act which forbid "wildcat" or...

    Beyond withholding labor, what constitutes a strike? Picketing? Obstruction?

    Excluding those additional features, I don't see how those parts of the Taft-Hartley act which forbid "wildcat" or "jurisdictional" strikes, mass picketing, and strikes by federal workers were/are considered constitutional. I don't see any practical difference between a person withholding their labor individually and a group of individuals withholding their labor simultaneously. I don't see any difference between an individual standing on public property, holding a sign, and chanting grievances and a group of individuals doing the same.

    I was looking for discussion of the constitutionality of Taft-Hartley after I saw this discussion and couldn't find anything outside of a paywalled article on the subject from 1948:

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/2518887

    I'm assuming it was discussing the anti-communist portions which were overturned.

  14. Comment on Reddit announces "power-ups", their plan to have individual subreddits unlock features through members paying for a monthly subscription in ~tech

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    That's weird, I just heard a pronounced ringing. I can only describe it as some kind of a "knell".

    That's weird, I just heard a pronounced ringing. I can only describe it as some kind of a "knell".

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  15. Comment on How to Destroy Surveillance Capitalism - A new, short book by Cory Doctorow that looks at big tech as a monopoly problem in ~tech

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    It goes all the way back to Eddy Bernays' application of Freudian psychoanalysis to manage the opinions and behaviours of large populations. https://youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s

    The amount of resources that big corporations put toward methodically finding out how people tick and exploiting that understanding is astounding and it totally predates personal computers.

    It goes all the way back to Eddy Bernays' application of Freudian psychoanalysis to manage the opinions and behaviours of large populations.

    https://youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s

    3 votes