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  1. Comment on Salman Rushdie attacked onstage at New York event in ~books

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    According to the BBC Rushdie was stabbed in the neck and has been rushed to a hospital by helicopter.

    According to the BBC Rushdie was stabbed in the neck and has been rushed to a hospital by helicopter.

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  2. Comment on A surprising number of the top 100,000 websites include keyloggers that covertly capture everything you type into a form in ~tech

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    How many websites? I hate clickbait titles (that aren't even the same title as the one of the article itself).

    How many websites? I hate clickbait titles (that aren't even the same title as the one of the article itself).

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  3. Comment on What are you reading these days? in ~books

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    I just finished reading Phèdre, the play by Racine. In general, watching a play is more enjoyable than reading it, but Phèdre is very readable. It was a recent edition in the original French,...

    I just finished reading Phèdre, the play by Racine. In general, watching a play is more enjoyable than reading it, but Phèdre is very readable. It was a recent edition in the original French, written in alexandrins with beautiful, melodic language. I am always amazed by how universal (neo)classical themes are--Phèdre in particular deals with responsibility and accountability. And if you believe in archetypes, this play is very rich in them. It's a clear recommendation if you read French and enjoy plays.

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  4. Comment on New gender-neutral pronoun is likely to enter the official Norwegian language within a year, the Language Council of Norway has confirmed in ~humanities

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    I am Swedish, and extrapolating from how our gender neutral pronoun entered the "official" dictionary, it is descriptive. The Language Council in Norway's case, or the Swedish academy in Sweden's...

    I am Swedish, and extrapolating from how our gender neutral pronoun entered the "official" dictionary, it is descriptive. The Language Council in Norway's case, or the Swedish academy in Sweden's case are not like L'Académie Française - they are descriptive. However, unlike most English dictionaries, they have the task to communicate with the public, and therefore often talk about which words are going to be added to their dictionaries. This doesn't mean that they "condone" the word - it just means that the word has gotten enough use to be able to be added to the dictionary.

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  5. Comment on The existence of God and the beginning of the universe in ~humanities

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    I feel like I've read a completely different article than many other here have. I also feel like the "Exemplary" comment I initially replied to is so far from exemplary that I genuinely don't...

    I feel like I've read a completely different article than many other here have. I also feel like the "Exemplary" comment I initially replied to is so far from exemplary that I genuinely don't understand people here. I appreciate your responses.

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  6. Comment on The existence of God and the beginning of the universe in ~humanities

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    Have you read it? I don't know what to say other than that I didn't see any support for PapaNachros' interpretation in the article at all. All your questions can be answered by reading the same...

    This sort of “go reread it until you get it” shit is really unhelpful

    Have you read it? I don't know what to say other than that I didn't see any support for PapaNachros' interpretation in the article at all. All your questions can be answered by reading the same paragraph that the comment I responded to quoted, it's the penultimate paragraph of the article, I won't quote it here.

    You are contributing nothing in this thread.

    I won't say you're contributing nothing, but I'd suggest arguing against the arguments in the article rather than me.

    The article is very simple: it has premises and a conclusion. If you think one or several premises are wrong, say so. If you think all the premises are true, but that they don't support the conclusion, say so. Don't insult the author by accusing him of arguing in bad faith ("It's like he thinks that if he uses enough jargon eventually god will poof into existence and give us atheists a wedgie"), misrepresenting his argument (maybe not on purpose, but still) and indirectly criticising the person who posted the article ("What an enormous waste of time").

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  7. Comment on The existence of God and the beginning of the universe in ~humanities

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    I understand that you might feel strongly about this, but calling it "rambling" seems like bad faith. The "rambling" is a real argument made sincerely. You also misrepresent his argument, look at...

    I skipped past the rambling about infinity to try to get to the rest of what he was saying and the rest of his argument is that astrophysicists haven't figured everything out about the origin of the universe. Therefore god. It's fucking wild. He wasted all that time just rambling about nothing to say

    I understand that you might feel strongly about this, but calling it "rambling" seems like bad faith. The "rambling" is a real argument made sincerely. You also misrepresent his argument, look at the sentences after "In fact, I think that it can be plausibly argued that the cause of the universe must be a personal Creator".

    After all that crap about infinity and quantum theory he just goes for the god of the gaps

    He doesn't.

    "We don't know yet, so it must be god"

    He doesn't say that.

    He doesn't back it up. He doesn't explain why

    He does, in the following paragraph.

    What an enormous waste of time

    It is a waste of time if you've decided what to think about it even before finishing it.

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  8. Comment on The existence of God and the beginning of the universe in ~humanities

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    He spends ten long paragraphs explaining why one is justified in believing in premise 1 outside of the obvious "an effect without a cause is harder to believe than believing in God".

    He spends ten long paragraphs explaining why one is justified in believing in premise 1 outside of the obvious "an effect without a cause is harder to believe than believing in God".

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  9. Comment on European Super League confirmed as Premier League ‘Big Six’ clubs join breakaway competition as founders in ~sports

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    As I understand it: Competitive football has always been played in leagues, when a team is in the top of a league it progresses to the next league. This makes it possible for lower-league teams to...

    As I understand it:

    Competitive football has always been played in leagues, when a team is in the top of a league it progresses to the next league. This makes it possible for lower-league teams to progress and become better, and it stops higher-league teams from stalling. This European Super League would keep the "top" teams in the league forever, even if they play horribly and end up last in the league they will still play in the same league next season.

    Why do they want this? Some teams, like Tottenham and Arsenal, probably do it to stay in the top league forever (those teams aren't really on par with the rest, but they are internationally renowned and have a lot of money), while other teams to it to gain more money. American and Asian football fans mostly root for one of these teams, since they are the biggest and most famous, and they are the biggest teams in their home countries too. This makes it very lucrative to sell tv-rights all over the world.

    Why don't fans of the teams like it? Because it goes against the competitiveness and ideology of sports in general, and football in particular. These big teams want their own league to not have to share tv-money with the small teams, they want to never be able to be relegated to a lower league. Fans of football obviously hate this idea, even if they are supporters of the teams in question.

    It's not a sport if there is no competition, if there is no relation between effort and success. The Super League would not be a competition, it would be an exhibition.

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  10. Comment on Graham Linehan says he won’t work with Channel 4 again unless transphobic IT Crowd episode is reinstated in ~tv

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    Okay, sorry, I lost my train of thought, my bad. I totally forgot where I was in my argument and misread your reply. Please let me amend my mistake: Here I was answering to the wrong question, I...

    Okay, sorry, I lost my train of thought, my bad. I totally forgot where I was in my argument and misread your reply. Please let me amend my mistake:

    How about a text written before the author became antisemitic?

    Written before the author became anti-semitic, or before the author - who grew up steeped in an anti-semitic society, one in the process of (slowly) leaving its anti-semitism behind - became noticeably anti-semitic?

    Perhaps he's an author unaware of Jews, and if that's not good enough; an author from before there were Jews. It doesn't really matter, simply "before the author became antisemitic". (It's a thought experiment, not a literal author.)

    Here I was answering to the wrong question, I don't know where that came from, sorry.

    How about a text written before the author became antisemitic?

    Written before the author became anti-semitic, or before the author - who grew up steeped in an anti-semitic society, one in the process of (slowly) leaving its anti-semitism behind - became noticeably anti-semitic?

    Do you think it's impossible for a person to not be antisemitic in an antisemitic society? I don't think of myself (or you) as an antisemite, but we live in this society, which as you say is leaving its antisemitism behind while still having some antisemitic tendencies. If you do think we're both antisemites (just not noticeably so (yet?)), then I can't answer. I don't believe we are antisemites, and while it is not physically impossible that I do become an antisemite tomorrow, I think it's very unlikely.

    If you don't think we're both antisemites, then what is the difference between us and this author?

    The author grew up in a society where anti-semitism - and misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia - was pervasive. It's much more likely that he learned that as a child, when surrounded by peers who enabled him, rather than after some criticism he received for the anti-semitism in his work he supposedly had yet to learn.

    Now you're talking about something different which I am not arguing. I totally agree, but I fail to see how it's relevant to my argument.

  11. Comment on Graham Linehan says he won’t work with Channel 4 again unless transphobic IT Crowd episode is reinstated in ~tv

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    Perhaps he's an author unaware of Jews, and if that's not good enough; an author from before there were Jews. It doesn't really matter, simply "before the author became antisemitic". (It's a...

    Perhaps he's an author unaware of Jews, and if that's not good enough; an author from before there were Jews. It doesn't really matter, simply "before the author became antisemitic". (It's a thought experiment, not a literal author.)

  12. Comment on Graham Linehan says he won’t work with Channel 4 again unless transphobic IT Crowd episode is reinstated in ~tv

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    This is my point! The author's intent, to not write an antisemitic book, doesn't affect my interpretation of the book as antisemitic. If I find no signs of the book being antisemitic within the...

    This is my point! The author's intent, to not write an antisemitic book, doesn't affect my interpretation of the book as antisemitic.

    If I find no signs of the book being antisemitic within the book itself, that is because I am either not educated enough to find the clues, or the book isn't antisemitic. But it is unlikely that there are no such clues in this example.

    How about a text written before the author became antisemitic?

    Edit: just corrected a typo

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  13. Comment on Graham Linehan says he won’t work with Channel 4 again unless transphobic IT Crowd episode is reinstated in ~tv

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    How do you mean? I have my own bias, of course, but if I don't know the author's personal opinions, they will surely not affect my opinion on their work? And if I happen to know the author is an...

    How do you mean? I have my own bias, of course, but if I don't know the author's personal opinions, they will surely not affect my opinion on their work? And if I happen to know the author is an antisemite, it might stop me from buying a book in order to not give them money, but not from pirating the book, or buying the book second-hand. The opinions of the author is not one of my criteria for reading a book or not.

    (Of course I could be naive or narcissistic or delusional.)

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  14. Comment on Graham Linehan says he won’t work with Channel 4 again unless transphobic IT Crowd episode is reinstated in ~tv

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    Sure, and I'd argue that context can be divided into two parts: external statements by the author (in interviews, letters, etc.) and the context of the work itself (historical context, dogwhistles...

    There's two ways to understand intent. First is from the medium itself, and second is from context.

    Sure, and I'd argue that context can be divided into two parts: external statements by the author (in interviews, letters, etc.) and the context of the work itself (historical context, dogwhistles and other meanings hidden to uneducated readers, etymology, etc). This second type of context I can agree has some value.

    When we learn of context through other means, such as the discovery that a writer holds hate in their heart, we can now know to avoid this writers depictions of the group they are marginalizing or spreading hate about. It's one of many tools in our disposal to fight malicious ideologies.

    If an author depicts "a crooked-nose person from Germany named Goldblum" unfavourably, my knowledge of Jewish stereotypes and my knowledge of history will help me discern that the work could be antisemitic. But that ability comes from clues not related to the author's personal thoughts. On the other hand, there could be an antisemitic author who wrote books that had no discernable antisemitic tendencies. Then I would read those books and appreciate them for what they are, and not for what the author is.

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  15. Comment on Graham Linehan says he won’t work with Channel 4 again unless transphobic IT Crowd episode is reinstated in ~tv

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    I disagree. The only context I can think of that could be of some value is historical context (i.e., what connotations did the word "negro" or "Napoleon" have at the time?). The personal opinions...

    Because the episode isn't just the content itself. Context matters for these types of things.

    I disagree. The only context I can think of that could be of some value is historical context (i.e., what connotations did the word "negro" or "Napoleon" have at the time?). The personal opinions of the author seems irrelevant. Why someone wrote a book, or what the author meant (as if the author himself knew) doesn't interest me.

    If I learn about something undeniably vile, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion for example, I might be interested in the effects it had on society, or how people at the time received it. What the authors themselves thought seems to me utterly irrelevant. Maybe they were hired by someone who hated jews, or they themselves hated jews, or they just wrote random letters: it doesn't matter. The result is what matters, the reception is what matters, my interpretation is what matters.

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