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  1. Comment on Is fanart fluff? Could something be done to make it not fluff if so? in ~tildes

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    And yet photography is not fluff somehow. (*) There certainly seems to be some inconsistency in how we currently define "fluff". If it's about attention span, a photograph is about the same as a...

    For one, music doesn't naturally lend itself to quick consumption in the same way a meme or a piece of fanart does...

    And yet photography is not fluff somehow. (*)

    There certainly seems to be some inconsistency in how we currently define "fluff". If it's about attention span, a photograph is about the same as a painting. If it's about the possibility of quality discussion generated from the post, most submissions in ~music would fail, or at least fair about the same as visual creations in general. If it's about the level of craftmanship, there are some really high quality fanart as well as some really mediocre songs. If it's about the level of originality, we would need to go against remixes and covers too. If it's about... actually that's all I can come up with. Maybe there's one criteria out there that would help us draw a better boundary between fluff and non-fluff. In the mean time, I think the charitable thing to do is to not dismiss fanart wholesale.

    (*) Comparing fanart, a specific use of a medium, to photography, an entire medium, is quite unfair. A better comparison is probably cosplay, which people generally agree is also fluff. So maybe the dividing line here is 'something created primarily to show appreciation to some other artistic work'? Not sure what's ~music 's stand on covers is, which I believe is about as fluffy as fanart and cosplay.

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  2. Comment on Kurzgesagt's "Trust" video may have been a preemptive move to avoid criticism. in ~misc

  3. Comment on It's 2050 And This Is How We Stopped Climate Change in ~enviro

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    Now I'm imagining that in the future, I'd become one of those annoying old man who always went on about how 'Back in my days, we had to drive cars that pump out toxic gases to go to school...

    Now I'm imagining that in the future, I'd become one of those annoying old man who always went on about how 'Back in my days, we had to drive cars that pump out toxic gases to go to school everyday, and we all had to do it manually.' Then the kids would say 'You're crazy old man. How could that many people driving cars around without crashing into each other?'

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  4. Comment on It's 2050 And This Is How We Stopped Climate Change in ~enviro

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    To re-purpose existing road infrastructure perhaps? It'd probably depend on the specific application that industries would decide between heavy-duty train tracks or light-weight flexible truck fleets.

    To re-purpose existing road infrastructure perhaps? It'd probably depend on the specific application that industries would decide between heavy-duty train tracks or light-weight flexible truck fleets.

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  5. Comment on "It’s an old joke that ride-share companies are slowly inventing the bus, but it’s more accurate to say that they have reinvented the servant." in ~tech

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    My guess is they need the money to invest in self-driving tech, which is probably the only way for these companies to remain relevant in the future. R&D is always a giant money sink with slow return.

    My guess is they need the money to invest in self-driving tech, which is probably the only way for these companies to remain relevant in the future. R&D is always a giant money sink with slow return.

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  6. Comment on Science’s Pirate Queen in ~tech

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    Hm, if that's the case I wonder if we can do away with physical copies entirely. I don't do much of my reading using physical papers anymore and a lot of newspapers also work fine digitally.

    Hm, if that's the case I wonder if we can do away with physical copies entirely. I don't do much of my reading using physical papers anymore and a lot of newspapers also work fine digitally.

  7. Comment on Science’s Pirate Queen in ~tech

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    I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and ask: what's the breakdown of this cost that could possibly make it so high? Even Open Access journals, despite their goodwill, still require...

    Publishing powerhouses like Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences have estimated its internal cost per-article to be around $3,700. Nature, meanwhile, says that each article sets it back around $30,000 to $40,000 — an unreasonable amount to expect scientists to pay if they were to go Open Access.

    I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and ask: what's the breakdown of this cost that could possibly make it so high? Even Open Access journals, despite their goodwill, still require researchers to pay up to thousands of dollars for each publication. While it's understandable if publishers would increase the price just because they can, seems like there is still some necessity behind it.

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  8. Comment on Some small updates over the past week in ~tildes.official

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    Ah, so you're also approaching from the POV of the submitter as well. A reader can figure out whether what they're about to read is an article about astronomy, biology or mathematics from the...

    Ah, so you're also approaching from the POV of the submitter as well. A reader can figure out whether what they're about to read is an article about astronomy, biology or mathematics from the title itself, right?

    As for science journals vs. pop-sci websites, my stand is we should let the reader judge the strength of the argument raised in the article by themselves, without the risk of accidentally priming them with biases caused by their personal opinion regarding the person who submitted it. Good article should be able to convince readers on its own and bad article shouldn't be allowed the benefit of some big names supporting it.

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  9. Comment on Some small updates over the past week in ~tildes.official

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    Regarding science related content, can you give some examples of the kind of situation where taste is involved? I'm struggling to think of any due to coming from an entirely opposite view point.

    Regarding science related content, can you give some examples of the kind of situation where taste is involved? I'm struggling to think of any due to coming from an entirely opposite view point.

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  10. Comment on Some small updates over the past week in ~tildes.official

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    You touch a good point I was avoiding there. All type of contents have authorship and so it certainly makes sense to always give credit to the authors. That said, the angle I was approaching is...

    You touch a good point I was avoiding there. All type of contents have authorship and so it certainly makes sense to always give credit to the authors. That said, the angle I was approaching is for the benefit of the viewers, which an author's name is not always the most useful thing to know about.

    For most scientific works, the general public don't know anything about the authors, beside the very few popular names like Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein. And virtually no authors produce enough "popular" works in order to build a reputation out of for the general public. I can name Robert Langer as one of the most famous material researcher and no one outside of material science will know about him. This is where popular names will be more effective, things like top university (MIT, Havard...) , top journal (Nature, Science...), top blogger or youtuber (Kurzgesagt, Veritasium...).

    In the same line of approach, for ~news or ~science posters' names can certainly be useful (some users who has reputation of being knowledgeable in certain field, avoiding trouble users who keep posting inflamatory news...). However, if there're already other venues that can provide the same benefits, but better, why not use them instead.

    As far as personal preference goes, I'd still prefer scientific discussion to be anonymous. This is the kind of thing that the strength of the argument should speak for itself, not based on the strength of an authoritative figure. To be honest, none of us internet users on a public forum such as this are actually discovering any new insights anyway. As far as scientific topic is concerned, all we do is paraphrasing talking points that actual experts have told us, so it's still not right for us consumers to claim any form of ownership in this process.

    At least for taste-based groups, without being the creator, a user can still claim ownership of their artistic preference. What's there to "prefer" about scientific facts?

    Edit: Just an add-on since it's relevant to the topic, one of the most prominent issues with scientific publications right now is that a large number of fallacious research slip through the peer review process and get published simply because a there's a big professor's name attached to it, so it's not as beneficial as you think. The moment you think about using author's name as indicator for scientific validity is the moment you fail the scientific process.

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  11. Comment on Some small updates over the past week in ~tildes.official

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    In the same vein, I think we should omit showing submitter's name entirely in neutral groups like ~science as well, I'll get into what the replacement should be later. Showing submitter's name in...

    I've updated it now so that I can change this behavior on a per-group basis, and for now, both ~creative and ~music will always show the submitter's name, even on link topics.

    In the same vein, I think we should omit showing submitter's name entirely in neutral groups like ~science as well, I'll get into what the replacement should be later.

    Showing submitter's name in taste-based group like ~music makes sense since as others have mentioned elsewhere, the choice of music is personal preference, so the quality of the music posted is strongly associated with the identity of the person who posted it, therefore username can be a useful indicator of quality.

    Following this line of thinking, the question of whether to show username or not can be thought of as actually about what type of information can be most useful as a quality indicator. Vote count is one, username is traditionally another, comment count can be considered as one too for those viewers whose interest is lively discussion posts, domain name is a good one too, in some circumstances.

    At this point we should see that there's more possibility here than just username vs. domain name, and the decision of what is applicable should be dependent on the nature of the community and the type of content in question.

    For ~creative, I believe the most important quality indicator is the author's name. So if we expect the majority of posts to be self creation, we can keep displaying username as default. If a user find some high quality creation elsewhere and wanted to share, they should have the option to display the creator's name instead, giving credits where credits' due. If they insist on not doing so and keep their username instead, we can make this a case of freebooting.

    For ~news, domain name is certainly a good choice, as it's still generally true that the quality of a news article is strongly linked to the reputation of the news outlets that reported it, authorship is not as important in this case and the submitter's name is just secondary level information.

    ~science can be a bit tricky since scientific knowledge in principle belongs to no one but anyone is free to do a retelling of it. A piece of scientific content can come from a variety of sources with different levels of credibility and formality, so a one-size-fit-all approach won't work. If it's an original research, journal names should be a good indicator (not domain names since normally no one is familiar with them). If it's a retelling that's meant to reintroduce concepts to the general public, then display the author's name and not the person who posted it, this means blogger names, podcast names, name of the Youtube creator... If it's a text posts by our very own members however, like the "layperson's introduction to" series, I'd say just display "self-post" without any names attached, to keep in line with the principle. If there's any type of content that deserves de-emphasis from ownership, this should be it.

    I'm sure I'm missing a lot of nuance in my examples, hopefully those who are more well-versed in the culture of their respective groups can propose something more reasonable. The point I want to raise here is only that there's more to this discussion than just 'to show or not to show usernames' and that there's potential here to do something thorough.

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  12. Comment on What have you been watching/reading this week? (Anime/Manga) in ~anime

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    Finished reading Blame! The sense of scale is impressive. I like how throughout his journey, the protagonist runs into all sort of troubles and encounter all kinds of people, yet the final...

    Finished reading Blame! The sense of scale is impressive. I like how throughout his journey, the protagonist runs into all sort of troubles and encounter all kinds of people, yet the final challenge for him is essentially having to take a reeeally long walk alone after all the conflicts having long finished since eons ago.

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  13. Comment on The Next Financial Crisis Could Be Caused by Climate Change in ~enviro

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    Moving is always just temporary. There are countries whose entire landmass is nothing but coastal. When calamities strike and climate change is taken seriously, people in those countries can't...

    Moving is always just temporary. There are countries whose entire landmass is nothing but coastal. When calamities strike and climate change is taken seriously, people in those countries can't just move away, they have no option but to fight back. And if those countries figured out how to defend themselves against the ocean, the US can just implement those same solutions for its coastal cities. In the long run, there's no avoiding fighting back. If we worry that walls might fail, we'd better be damn sure that they won't.

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  14. Comment on ‘Is My Absence From Social Media a Red Flag?’ in ~life

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    One is forced upon you by the government, the other is a third party platform you use willingly that is then exploited by the government. They are functionally the same, but the other feels more free.

    One is forced upon you by the government, the other is a third party platform you use willingly that is then exploited by the government. They are functionally the same, but the other feels more free.

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  15. Comment on What are the best science fiction short stories, novellas, and novelettes you have ever read? in ~books

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    Just curious, which do you consider as Asimov's best short stories?

    Just curious, which do you consider as Asimov's best short stories?

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  16. Comment on Lorn - Sega Sunset in ~music

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    Anyone knows of similar music from other artists? I came across this by accident and really liked the way it sounds. As a Youtube commenter put it: "the sounds picked are verry violent yet the...

    Anyone knows of similar music from other artists? I came across this by accident and really liked the way it sounds. As a Youtube commenter put it: "the sounds picked are verry violent yet the composition doesn't invoke hate or violence but rather serenity".

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  17. Comment on Remember the Person: Effortposting about Tildes and Anti-Social UX patterns in Social Media in ~tildes

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    I see. If I understand correctly, you are classifying which platforms are social media based on whether their primary purpose is socialization despite their level of inter-user interactivity,...

    I see. If I understand correctly, you are classifying which platforms are social media based on whether their primary purpose is socialization despite their level of inter-user interactivity, while not everything that involve interpersonal communication can necessarily be considered social media if socializing is not their primary purpose.

    Would it be fair for me to say, then, that an MMO game is not a social media since the users' main objective is to win a game and not to socialize with other users; LinkedIn would also not be a social media since its main purpose is job hunting; while if a group of people for some reasons decide to chat via a shared Google Docs, that Google Docs now function as a social media, despite not being designed as one.

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  18. Comment on What software will you trust when you get senile? in ~life

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    For me, the thing that I'll need to keep in mind when the time comes, before deciding to trust any software or new technology in general, is to be able to keep an open mind about said technology....

    For me, the thing that I'll need to keep in mind when the time comes, before deciding to trust any software or new technology in general, is to be able to keep an open mind about said technology. The stereotype of old people vs. technology stems from the fact that it's hard for them to understand and thus hard for them to accept. If I can't guarantee that I will be able keep up with new technology, the least I can do is to try to accept it, both the wonder that it will bring and the danger that comes with it.

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