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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentTo me it's not so much the physical effort but the chastising, which I feel even more strongly about now because I didn't think it was so contentious and controversial to not vote but now I see,...To me it's not so much the physical effort but the chastising, which I feel even more strongly about now because I didn't think it was so contentious and controversial to not vote but now I see, considering all the people arguing against me. It represents the same bully mentality that spawns slavery and in worse times when war is upon us, the neutral can get treated like slaves. So I admit, there's no escape from the political drama, especially when it gets bad, but neutrality or being a conscientious political objector is a hill I'll die on and for others who just want society to fuck off without having to be engaged in these crazy political battles.
There's conscientious objectors of war, individuals and groups, and they generally get respected for their views. Why shouldn't non-voters get respect for abstaining from the crazy?
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentI can make the same arguments for your choices if I exaggerate them to great degree as you do mine. There's degrees, discretion, nuances and contexts in my opinions, it's not that I want society...I can make the same arguments for your choices if I exaggerate them to great degree as you do mine. There's degrees, discretion, nuances and contexts in my opinions, it's not that I want society to do the same thing I'm doing the same way and the same degrees and such; I'm not telling others what to do or not to do here other than it shouldn't be so controversial to not vote. Besides, many things would be bad if we all did them. If you had everyone being teachers, society wouldn't function either because it just can't function when we all have the same role. You're not giving a good faith argument when you argue to those extremes.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentAka, things which keep others from being harmed. And other people use that excuse to do things I'm sure you don't like, "for your own good" or for the good of their gods, their religion, their...Aka, things which keep others from being harmed. And other people use that excuse to do things I'm sure you don't like, "for your own good" or for the good of their gods, their religion, their views, etc. You're doing me a disservice by not acknowledging you may fall in the same category.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentPeople who want to change genders. Any threat upon people on all sides I see as a threat to me because I can be mistaken for those people if I don't pick sides. Oh, but I do have to defend it....As harmless as who are in this context.
People who want to change genders.
Well you were implying these threats were happening here. I was unable to find any statistics on threats to people not voting.
Any threat upon people on all sides I see as a threat to me because I can be mistaken for those people if I don't pick sides.
No one has to be fine with your choice. And you don't have to defend it.
Oh, but I do have to defend it. That's the paradox of "neutrality", as much as I want to maintain it. Sometimes I have to speak up because people wish to do me harm if I don't fight their battles for them. Perhaps it's due to being a lonely "nerd" most of my life and having no friends but so I found, not allying with anyone can be a dangerous prospect. You realize all too well the inherent subtle violence within society by not joining it or being able to join it. I have no delusions that the comfort of the here and now, in all its benign glory, can't become something more menacing should I maintain my neutrality if a political circus comes to town.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentBy "people here" I mean the general consensus of people that I've replied to. I don't mean it to be offensive but it's a true generalization of my experience here so far. And I think comparisons...By "people here" I mean the general consensus of people that I've replied to. I don't mean it to be offensive but it's a true generalization of my experience here so far. And I think comparisons of human behavior that drive wars to some degree manifest to human behavior in less conflicting situations so it's noteworthy, imo.
In the culture wars, it's comparable to other wars for people who stay neutral because I just compared it and noticed similarities. If things got any worse you'd see people like me getting persecuted just as anyone else. My fight is just as valid as yours.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentHow do you feel about being forced to serve people? How would you feel 200 years ago about certain groups being forced to serve people? Oh, but you're for slavery as long as it's done equally?...How do you feel about being forced to serve people? How would you feel 200 years ago about certain groups being forced to serve people? Oh, but you're for slavery as long as it's done equally? Well jury duty, taxes, etc aren't done equally; there's much corruption in the system and a lot of it is just human behavior that can't always be legislated away. It's not an easy question.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentWhat I'm speaking about isn't entirely related to this thread, I'm speaking of the greater, it's human behavior in general when you don't choose sides. Look at WWII, sometimes no fucks given if...I think you may have an idea of this narrative in your head that isn't accurate to the reality of this thread.
What I'm speaking about isn't entirely related to this thread, I'm speaking of the greater, it's human behavior in general when you don't choose sides. Look at WWII, sometimes no fucks given if neutral and in other times they treated you more harshly because for some, if not for, they see you as against. That is what I'm speaking about in the underlying maliciousness toward neutrality. If you're not for, you can be seen as being the worst of the other party. When you're neutral you can be seen as the worst of both parties. It's not generally seen as an entirely benign position but I contend it should be in a rational world.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentYou call me innacurate for saying people would call me evil for not choosing sides? I'm not just saying here on tildes but in general, it's something I've noticed. Yet tildes generally upvotes...You call me innacurate for saying people would call me evil for not choosing sides? I'm not just saying here on tildes but in general, it's something I've noticed. Yet tildes generally upvotes comments about trans lives being on the line, as harmless as they are, so there's definitely people that would harm me and assume I'm their enemy if I don't take sides on those issues. For every lift-threatening issue, those who are neutral can be threatened just the same for their neutrality and you downplay it like I'm not threatened either. Choose the worst of all sides, that's what the neutral middle gets accused of. Just looking at how much I've had to defend those who don't vote, it's very obvious here that many people aren't fine with non-voters.
And I don't see what I said as any less accurate than what you said. I'm not saying disagreeing with me is the monster of humanity. You're making many assumptions that I don't agree with.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentGood to know. I just never investigated, asked or even cared before. That I didn't know and I'm corrected now. I think another issue is choice anxiety or analysis paralysis. I'm the type I want to...-
Good to know. I just never investigated, asked or even cared before.
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That I didn't know and I'm corrected now.
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I think another issue is choice anxiety or analysis paralysis. I'm the type I want to know as much as I can before I make a choice on important things. I'm sure I'm not the only non-voter where this is partly an issue.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentLike with infinities, there's different kinds of neutralities too that reside in different domains. I'm not saying anyone else isn't "neutral" either, it's semantics I don't care to argue. Is...Like with infinities, there's different kinds of neutralities too that reside in different domains. I'm not saying anyone else isn't "neutral" either, it's semantics I don't care to argue. Is "left alone" a better term that will help you understand my mindset and maybe others who don't vote?
I'm also arguing that even if I'm a complete dumbass, which I may be, and can't articulate myself well, that I should still have the right to not be pushed to a voting booth or join a political army if I don't want to. Or if I'm too dumb to figure it, too depressed to care, and so on, the reason should be moot. Even if I can't articulate well my reasons, I think it should still be respected. I shouldn't have to explain and a person sufficiently capable of understanding non-voter motives would figure it out, it's the ones who can't figure out those people who seem to have a problem. The Amish get respect for staying out of the insanity of the modern world, why can't some of us get respect for staying out of the insanity of the modern political world?
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentYes, to degrees as conversation manipulates neurons. You can manipulate someone to process an idea, a more benign form, which I mean in that context as opposed to greater ones which manipulate...Edit: wait in another comment you said all conversations are manipulation, so you do think you're being manipulated on Tildes?
Yes, to degrees as conversation manipulates neurons. You can manipulate someone to process an idea, a more benign form, which I mean in that context as opposed to greater ones which manipulate neurons which physically manipulate people. Again, context matters. And I'm not entirely against being manipulated either but I don't want to be forced or else I'm not against retorting the same, depending, with context, with nuance, with discretion, etc., it's not always so simple.
OP seemed to beg an answer for why people don't vote and that's what I've explained here yet no one here as reassured me that I'm ok with trying to maintain my own peace to not delve in politics and I've even gotten a few denigrational replies. That's just how toxic today's political atmosphere has become, that if you're neutral you're essentially evil and the enemy. That's just another thing wrong with society that can't be voted away because it's inherent in human behavior, that you have to have a discrete opinion or side or take part in society or else you're bad. To paraphrase Nietzsche, in trying to find monsters it's become a monster.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentBeing against neutrality and speaking ill to those who wish to not assign themselves to tribes or else you denigrate them, that's "brainrot". Mandatory voting isn't a fact of life in the US and...Being against neutrality and speaking ill to those who wish to not assign themselves to tribes or else you denigrate them, that's "brainrot". Mandatory voting isn't a fact of life in the US and speaking for myself, I'm not suppressed as a voter. Those kinds of laws also suppress the minority group of people who don't want to vote, what about their rights? As I said before, this mindset is just meaningless virtue signalling. Making laws to force people to do things because others think it's for their own good, or just as well for the good of the lawmakers and not necessarily the suppressed minority group of those who don't want to vote. Hypocrisy at its finest European (if you want to denigrate nationals) brainrot.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentTechnically all conversation is manipulation of some kind, for better or worse. And sorry if I offended but I'm going against the hivemind here and when you face stronger numbers you sometimes use...Technically all conversation is manipulation of some kind, for better or worse. And sorry if I offended but I'm going against the hivemind here and when you face stronger numbers you sometimes use stronger words. One person has so far called my desire to not be into politics and trying to keep what peace I have as the "finest American brainrot". Some really have a problem even if you're just a neutral person doing your own thing and to me that is one of the greatest of all evils. That will indeed get me to fight, probably not in a way that want, but fight against them.
Best to you as well.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentIn regards to the first part, do you honestly think there's a party here that's using reverse psychology to try to get me to not vote? Context matters and in this context, I think I've not been...In regards to the first part, do you honestly think there's a party here that's using reverse psychology to try to get me to not vote? Context matters and in this context, I think I've not been manipulated here to change my mind in any way that it wasn't before. Out in the wild, sure, I know there are parties trying to get certain groups to not vote.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentIt's not a cure-all and it's not worth doing, as opposed to hygiene. Your responses and others have done nothing to convince me to be offended enough by anyone to go out and vote. If anything, the...It's not a cure-all and it's not worth doing, as opposed to hygiene. Your responses and others have done nothing to convince me to be offended enough by anyone to go out and vote. If anything, the antagonization of non-voters here and elsewhere, ie, if not for than you're against, can make one not want to vote even more. Because in their eyes a neutral person is the enemy and so it comes to be that my vote to piss off my new enemies is then to not vote.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentI've just never looked into it. I live in a very small town and I assumed I'd have to travel many miles away to do so, then I'd have to sign myself into a political party (something I just abhor...I've just never looked into it. I live in a very small town and I assumed I'd have to travel many miles away to do so, then I'd have to sign myself into a political party (something I just abhor as tribalism can be a plague on society) and do countless amounts of research if I want to be a responsible voter. Besides this and the many many reasons I already discussed, I feel no need.
I generally don't like to talk about politics and stay away from it but this time, this thread, I'm letting it be known the motives of at least one person who's politically apathetic and probably won't do it again because as this thread shows, people just antagonize you and put you in the same box as their enemies. That's another reason you probably don't hear from us and we don't want to participate in the madness.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentIf you want to get technical, it's partisan as even if you don't participate or want to, even the group of non-participators can be seen as a party. I'm recalling analogs to the paradoxes of Set...If you want to get technical, it's partisan as even if you don't participate or want to, even the group of non-participators can be seen as a party. I'm recalling analogs to the paradoxes of Set theory.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentIn my mind, even a fine is extreme. It's entirely ablest against people who have a hard time deciding who to vote for or if even to vote at all. Maybe those people have mental issues, intellectual...It's reasonable to at least consider comparable systems rather than the most extreme possible scenarios.
In my mind, even a fine is extreme. It's entirely ablest against people who have a hard time deciding who to vote for or if even to vote at all. Maybe those people have mental issues, intellectual issues, too depressed to care, etc. If you force those people you'll just get an inaccurate, perhaps even unwanted outcome, the same when people force other people to be "nice". You'll get what you want, it may not even be authentic, so be careful. It's just entirely an obtuse way of trying to manipulate others into voting.
People here seem to virtue signal compassion yet where's the compassion for non-voters? It's totally insane and ridiculous to me that even not doing anything in that regard is seen as contentious and implies an underlying maliciousness that people aren't comfortable with exposing otherwise; it's hypocritical of people who want to come across as "good" people.
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Comment on USA: "The undecided voters are not who you think they are" in ~society
the_funky_buddha Link ParentYou're right about the 'live and let live' hillbilly (hellbilly) culture being a thing and somewhat of an influence on me growing up. Little care for politics or societal norms, just kind of live...You're right about the 'live and let live' hillbilly (hellbilly) culture being a thing and somewhat of an influence on me growing up. Little care for politics or societal norms, just kind of live and let live. Although with the world more connected now, it seems to be dying as more are being recruited to fight battles for one party or another, especially the conservatives because, like most, they're too weak to fight their own battles and so need more minds and matter for their culture wars, not to speak of the meta discussion to be had here as conversation is inherently trying to capture minds.
My view, no one should ever get upset if people don't fight for you, if people don't love you, if people don't care for you. I'm not so self-obsessed that I expect anyone to love me or fight for me; I fight my own battles. And yes, I will fight for someone being abused or bullied as I know how that is. Just don't expect it because some of the worst evil is manipulating yourself and others into thinking innocence (abstinence from political positions) is evil. You seem to want to care for people yet you forget about those suffering so much that they're absorbed in their own struggles in life and can't stay afloat on who the latest person is that we should be offended by and aren't educated enough or care to be to know their views. Turn on the news, they're trying to tell me who to hate. Turn on social media, same thing. Go to work, gossip is all about who's feelings are hurt by who's. God damn society, just stfu and deal with it and get on with life, I dgaf. Sorry for the rant but the last sentence is the nutshell; tired of having to explain myself so much.