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    ubergeek
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    Why is it they only compare to sysvinit? Combine the totals of all inits in Debian: runit, openrc, upstart, etc. Of course less than 5% use sysvinit. Sysvinit hasn't really been used by much in a...

    Why is it they only compare to sysvinit? Combine the totals of all inits in Debian: runit, openrc, upstart, etc.

    Of course less than 5% use sysvinit. Sysvinit hasn't really been used by much in a long, long time.

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      mrbig
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      AFAIK that’s what MX Linux uses. It’s pretty popular.

      AFAIK that’s what MX Linux uses. It’s pretty popular.

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      1. ubergeek
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        I think mx uses openrc, or at least that is what I recalled a few months ago while I was playing with it.

        I think mx uses openrc, or at least that is what I recalled a few months ago while I was playing with it.

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    unknown user
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    So basically, the tentacles of systemd have dug so deeply into GNOME Desktop that one essentially requires yet another piece of complex software just to get rid of it? I sincerely hope that that...
    The immediate motivation for a reconsideration would appear to be the proposed addition of elogind, a standalone fork of the systemd-logind daemon, to Debian. Elogind would provide support for systemd's D-Bus-based login mechanism — needed to support small projects like the GNOME desktop — without the need for systemd itself. (…) In short: merging elogind appears to be complex enough that it would be hard to justify in the absence of a strong commitment to the support of non-systemd init systems. (…)

    So basically, the tentacles of systemd have dug so deeply into GNOME Desktop that one essentially requires yet another piece of complex software just to get rid of it?

    I sincerely hope that that only concerns GNOME Desktop and not GTK+ in general. Really not looking forward Xfce becoming systemd-dependent, considering Lennart's opinion that “POSIX and BSD compatibility only hinder the progress of GNOME/GNU/Linux!”.

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    1. ubergeek
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      Yep, that's the goal. Make the interdependencies so interlocked, it becomes impossible to extricate it.

      Yep, that's the goal. Make the interdependencies so interlocked, it becomes impossible to extricate it.

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