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Ferrari patents inverted I6 hydrogen engine with electric turbocharging

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    ChingShih
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    So I had originally read about this as an excerpt from a MotorTrend article that I think raises some good points, but a lot of it goes over my head. I feel like I read a Scientific American...

    So I had originally read about this as an excerpt from a MotorTrend article that I think raises some good points, but a lot of it goes over my head. I feel like I read a Scientific American article on a bold new discovery in the field of astrophysics that could change everything but raises more questions that it answers and might have been pro-Pluto propaganda all along.

    But this all sounds very interesting and if I were more knowledgeable I'm sure I'd be even more excited by this concept. In the mean time, maybe someone with some mechanical knowledge can better explain (and excite us about) what these two journalists haven't fully gotten across to me.

    And for the sake of speculation, where do you see this kind of engine being used first? A new class/category of racing exclusive to hydrogen-hybrid cars? Novelty supercars? What will this technology trickle down into?

    Edit: The tag "short read" could be added to this as well. Thanks!

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    1. Delgalar
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      It's definitely a weird configuration, as mentioned in the motor trend article gravity helps keep the engine oiled better in the normal configuration. Keep in mind that as a matter of course...

      It's definitely a weird configuration, as mentioned in the motor trend article gravity helps keep the engine oiled better in the normal configuration.

      Keep in mind that as a matter of course companies will patent absolutely everything they can, even if it's not a realistically viable commercial design.

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    2. iBleeedorange
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      Hydrogen is tough to store, so this can't really be used by the general public, it's not economicly possible. The ones you've listed are possible opportunities but another is giant CAT dump truck...

      Hydrogen is tough to store, so this can't really be used by the general public, it's not economicly possible. The ones you've listed are possible opportunities but another is giant CAT dump truck like vehicles.

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    Jubilee
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    After reading both links provided, it appears to be describing a highly experimental and complex engine that’s attempting to squeeze out some performance based off some novel quirks of energy...

    After reading both links provided, it appears to be describing a highly experimental and complex engine that’s attempting to squeeze out some performance based off some novel quirks of energy balancing. Just a guess, but the designers probably wanted to experiment with specific performance tricks, and through a few iterations and wild (experimental) turns, they found a few solutions that satisfied their novel performance gains itch.

    To summarize, it’s an experiment where they juggle with various trade offs, and they seem to be having fun chasing performance in a new configuration that will unlikely even make it into test vehicle. Of course, they can learn from this work, and potentially apply it towards future designs.

    Motorsports have always been an interesting place to observe technology progress. “Amateur” race teams get to have a lot of fun too. Check out this race team for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDEPSRrfjps

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    1. disk
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      Yeah, this is not going to be a "full package" that will be pushed commercially, but rather a conjunction of different experimental technologies that Ferrari can then cherry pick to augment their...

      Yeah, this is not going to be a "full package" that will be pushed commercially, but rather a conjunction of different experimental technologies that Ferrari can then cherry pick to augment their offerings for high performance engines.

      I could even see some of these (most likely the compressor arrangement) being tested on petrol engines in "real" environments, but definitely not all features at once.