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In most countries, imports from China account for less than 10% of GDP, even where China is the top partner
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The unlikely afterlife of big box stores
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AI stocks lost more than $820 billion this week
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Norway's sovereign wealth fund set to undergo review as heightened geopolitical tensions lay bare the challenges of weighing national interest and ethics in steering the massive investor
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US President Donald Trump’s 100% China tariff triggers $20b wipeout, 1.6m crypto traders liquidated
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China’s CATL, the world’s biggest electric battery maker, starts trading in Hong Kong this week, after a $4.6 billion IPO, the biggest so far this year
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Growth vs. value stocks
One question you can ask yourself before you invest in a company: why do I think the value will increase and provide a good return on my investment? One reason is because the company is poised to...
One question you can ask yourself before you invest in a company: why do I think the value will increase and provide a good return on my investment?
One reason is because the company is poised to grow at a rate above the overall market. These are called growth stocks.
Another reason is because the company is valued lower than it should be right now based upon a fundamental analysis of its fair market value. These are called value stocks.
Growth
With a growth stock, the current price may already be high due to strong demand, because people think the stock will be worth much more in the future. That is the risk you are taking, because if the stock does not outperform the overall market, you are now behind.
Having a good knowledge of the market in which a growth stock company operates is very helpful. There may be market disruptions (AI anyone?) that lead to outsized expected growth. Look at Nvidia’s 5 year chart. Tell me when everybody figured out Nvidia’s chips were amazing for AI processing.
Or Amazon during the pandemic. Look at this chart and tell me when everybody figured out that if you can’t go to the store to buy things, you are going to need to order it online.
These companies were sitting in a market that, for whatever reason, had amazing growth potential. The companies were able to use their core strengths to jump ahead of the overall economy in terms of value creation speed.
Value
As mentioned, value stocks are those that, after lots of research into the company and market itself, you think the price of the stock should be higher than it is right now. And you expect that stock price to rise as everybody else realizes all the amazing things you already realized.
The stock could have been beaten down by some newsworthy event, which caused everybody to panic sell. These stocks are trading nowhere near their high marks. However, if you think the stock will get back up to that high water mark, you may have found a good value stock.
Now, determining which stocks that have suddenly dropped in value are actually value stocks takes research. You don’t want to “catch a falling knife” by the blade and end up bloody. You want to be able to catch the handle! Does the company have enough cash to weather any storm? Are creditors piling up? Is the photograph printing market shrinking incredibly fast and the company is not making the right decisions? Back to that fundamental analysis of the company itself - if you look at the financials and are impressed with the leadership's team ability to navigate that quick drop in stock value, then you found a winner!
Warren Buffet seems to think United Health is a value stock. As you can see, the stock is about half of its initial value. Buffet is in this for the long term and is hoping that his research is correct in terms of UnitedHealth potentially doubling back up to its previous value faster than the market as a whole would double. Either that, or he hopes his clout is enough to make it a value stock in that more people will invest just because he did.
Holy cow done
That about wraps up the difference between these two types of stocks. Many stocks are a blend of the two, also. But seeing the extremes helps with understanding this way to differentiate stocks. Yes, there are more specifics that I didn't fully get into. And yes I am trying to be as approachable as possible with the topic. Hopefully this helped you!
Can you find an example of a potential value stock out in the world currently? How about a potential growth stock?
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Investment club?
Any interest in forming an investment club? We would meet regularly (TBD), learn techniques from each other, pass on knowledge and experience, and present our individual analysis. The chair would...
Any interest in forming an investment club?
We would meet regularly (TBD), learn techniques from each other, pass on knowledge and experience, and present our individual analysis.
The chair would keep people on track in between meetings, encouraging the hard work of spending your own time researching duds in the hopes that one of us finds a potential gem for us all to enjoy.
Theoretically, we would want to research company stocks that are easy for all to buy, so I would be interested in a group based upon major US indices. However, this thread could potentially be used by others to form their own group buying from other markets.
Edit: alright, I'm sending direct messages to those who expressed interest in wanting to contribute. Those who expressed interest in learning will potentially be able to learn with however the group decides to communicate to Tildes.
If you are interested in participating, you can leave a comment here or send me a message for now. Thanks!
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Swedish financial technology company Klarna announces launch of its initial public offering, months after the firm paused its planned listing
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Chinese property giant Evergrande delisted after spectacular fall
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The hater's guide to the AI bubble
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Novo Nordisk shares plunge 20% after Wegovy maker names new CEO and cuts full-year guidance
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Jane Street barred from Indian markets as regulator freezes $566 million over Nifty 50 manipulation claims
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How does tiny Denmark defy the odds to become one of the richest nations?
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EU needs single regulatory framework and to break down fragmentation across its business, tax, debt issuance and securities law systems, according to Norway's sovereign wealth fund
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Klarna’s losses widen after more consumers fail to repay loans
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Novo Nordisk CEO Lars Fruergaard Jørgensen steps down amid growing competition for weight loss drugs
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Can you run a company as a perfect free market? Inside Disco Corp.
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The stock market loves Bitcoin
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You are witnessing the death of American capitalism
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Does anyone want to talk about stocks/options?
Just curious since the recent DeepSeek panic. What do you like? Companies/ETFs? What do you do? Buy and hold/Trade/Options (Calls/puts, LEAPs, spreads)? What areas do you think will see massive...
Just curious since the recent DeepSeek panic.
What do you like? Companies/ETFs?
What do you do? Buy and hold/Trade/Options (Calls/puts, LEAPs, spreads)?
What areas do you think will see massive change (gain/loss)?
Pretty sure this is my first or second topic post, so apologies if the opener is too short.
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Norway's sovereign wealth fund posted a full-year profit of $222.4 billion – returns were driven by the AI boom that drove tech stocks higher in 2024
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