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Keir Starmer struggles to counter Boris Johnson’s ‘vaccine bounce’ as UK polls loom

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    Bullmaestro
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    Starmer should resign. He has done nothing but prop the Tories up in his first year as Labour Party leader, especially in areas where the Tories should have been eviscerated, like pushing through...

    Starmer should resign.

    He has done nothing but prop the Tories up in his first year as Labour Party leader, especially in areas where the Tories should have been eviscerated, like pushing through an unfavourable Brexit deal that still mentioned Netscape Navigator in its text - one which the Tories themselves couldn't be bothered to read.

    Furthermore, he's riled up the left in his own party by suspending Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters from the party. Like or hate Corbyn, he got 40% of the vote share in 2017 and 32% in 2019, and he did this despite the media treating him like absolute garbage. Corbyn only failed because the Blairites and Centrists in the party conspired against him and made him appear weak.

    These polls have convinced me that if Boris were to call another GE later this year, he'd walk away with a biblically large majority.

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      JoylessAubergine
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      But why would he do that. Tories are in power until the next general election which isn't until 2024, game planning for a 2021 election is a complete waste of time. Keir's job isnt to win cheap...

      These polls have convinced me that if Boris were to call another GE later this year, he'd walk away with a biblically large majority.

      But why would he do that. Tories are in power until the next general election which isn't until 2024, game planning for a 2021 election is a complete waste of time. Keir's job isnt to win cheap victories now, which will frankly come across as morbid and likely backfire, his job is to rehab the party for 2024 and then use Tory hubris today to win the next election. Part of this includes an excising of Corbyn and Corbynites. You can excuse Corbyn's results however you want but at the end of the day he lost to May(!) and then got thrashed by Johnson along with creating previously unthinkable losses in the north (i live in one of those seats). Corbyn is deeply unpopular with a lot of the Labour working class base, not Blairites or Centrists but people who have voted Labour their entire life and couldnt have imagined voting Tory, Corbyn was so unpopular people held their nose and voted Cons.

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      1. Bullmaestro
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        It would be stupid to call a snap GE with a 70 seat majority with 3 years to go, I agree, but it would also diminish the chance of a rebellion within his own party, since any kind of splinter...

        It would be stupid to call a snap GE with a 70 seat majority with 3 years to go, I agree, but it would also diminish the chance of a rebellion within his own party, since any kind of splinter group would require a huge amount of votes to go against the government. This is a classic "strike while the iron's hot" moment.

        Keir's job isnt to win cheap victories now, which will frankly come across as morbid and likely backfire, his job is to rehab the party for 2024 and then use Tory hubris today to win the next election. Part of this includes an excising of Corbyn and Corbynites.

        Labour supporters are poking fun at Keir calling him nicknames like Mr Abstain and mocking his "forensic" electability - and rightly so. A LOTO is meant to oppose the government when they step out of line, not side with them on absolutely everything.

        We have a government that is rife with cronyism, that has fucked up absolutely everything about their pandemic response aside from the vaccine rollout, that has screwed many stakeholders in their botched Brexit negotiations, that is now threatening to erode protest rights by introducing a new bill that will allow them to lock up XR and BLM protesters for up to 10 years, that have the blood of over 150,000 deaths from COVID-19 on their hands, and that have economically crippled us far worse than other nations suffering from COVID waves.

        And they're polling 14 points above Labour.

        You can excuse Corbyn's results however you want but at the end of the day he lost to May(!) and then got thrashed by Johnson along with creating previously unthinkable losses in the north (i live in one of those seats).

        Last time a Labour leader got 40% of the vote share was Tony Blair. He won what was pretty much a Labour supermajority.

        2017 was really close and I commend Corbyn for his campaign. He was literally hundreds of votes away from a Labour government. The worst thing that the centrists in the party could have done was not have his back after this.

        Even the 32% that Corbyn got in the 2019 GE was far from the worst Labour performance, in terms of popular votes. If anything Brexit is largely to blame for the Red Wall (constituencies in Northern England) falling, and that's because the party wouldn't allow Corbyn to respect the result.

        The Hartlepool by-election is showing similarly grim results for Labour.

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  2. Kuromantis
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    As Sir Keir Starmer’s first anniversary as Labour leader approached on April 4, he told colleagues of the frustrations of running Britain’s main opposition party during a global pandemic. “I’ve only done speeches to an empty room, in front of a bored cameraman,” he said. “I’ve not been clapped — or booed.”

    Now Starmer is about to face his first test at the ballot box with real voters.

    A vast set of local elections across Britain on May 6, with about 5,000 posts up for grabs across England alone, were last year viewed with trepidation in Downing Street: they were seen as an unwelcome nationwide referendum on Boris Johnson’s stumbling handling of the Covid-19 crisis. The successful vaccine rollout this year has changed the political dynamic.

    Starmer, whose Ipsos Mori net approval rating dived from +31 last June to -9 last month, is now facing pressure from the Labour left. Former shadow cabinet member Richard Burgon has claimed that Starmer shows more zeal in fighting the Corbynite left than taking on “a Tory government responsible for one of the worst coronavirus death rates in the world”.

    [...] if the Tories were to do well on May 6 after 11 years in office, it would defy political gravity. She pointed out that after 11 years of power Margaret Thatcher’s Tories had lost 3,000 council seats while after 10 years of Tony Blair’s government, Labour had lost more than 4,000.

    “The shift towards the Tories has been most marked among the older age groups, who happen to be the people who have been vaccinated and who vote,” he said.

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