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  1. Comment on The election that could break America - What if Trump refuses to concede? in ~misc

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    No, sorry for using "us" in my comment. By that I mean "can't put their apparently sympathetic ideology aside and do their job".

    No, sorry for using "us" in my comment. By that I mean "can't put their apparently sympathetic ideology aside and do their job".

  2. Comment on The election that could break America - What if Trump refuses to concede? in ~misc

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    This is what I worry about the most. If the police don't care about it's job and the army doesn't care about it's job, what's gonna stop far-right extremists/reactionaries/fascists from just...

    The electoral combat will not confine itself to the courtroom. Local election adjudicators can expect to be named and doxed and pilloried as agents of George Soros or antifa. Aggressive crowds of self-proclaimed ballot guardians will be spoiling to reenact the “Brooks Brothers riot” of the Bush v. Gore Florida recount, when demonstrators paid by the Bush campaign staged a violent protest that physically prevented canvassers from completing a recount in Miami-Dade County.

    Suppose that caravans of Trump supporters, adorned in Second Amendment accessories, converge on big-city polling places on Election Day. They have come, they say, to investigate reports on social media of voter fraud. Counter­protesters arrive, fistfights break out, shots are fired, and voters flee or cannot reach the polls.

    This is what I worry about the most. If the police don't care about it's job and the army doesn't care about it's job, what's gonna stop far-right extremists/reactionaries/fascists from just coming into the scene in the hundreds of thousands, who have already been activated by the George Floyd protests and already been whitewashed or even glorified by a decent chunk of Republican media as seen by Kyle Rittenhouse into polling lines and USPS offices to beat up leftists, minorities, LGBT+ people and mail workers in mass?

    3 votes
  3. Comment on If you're a parent, what is it like? in ~talk

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    Wow, that was very fortunate for you. So your wife was basically/primarily the one who figured out how should you deal with your kid using the Internet/social media, presumably in absence of most...

    We heard a lot of things from a lot of people, but luckily my wife's bachelor degree was in early childhood development, so she was a wealth of knowledge on the matter. I also tend to be an information sponge, so I read some of her ECD text books, along with some parenting books, and we made decisions together about how to deal with most things.

    Wow, that was very fortunate for you.

    So your wife was basically/primarily the one who figured out how should you deal with your kid using the Internet/social media, presumably in absence of most of the documentation and general consensus among psychologists that parents have to draw upon today? (That was kind of the long version of my question, sorry.)

    So when did you and your wife make all these decisions about dealing with your kids' Internet usage? How old was your oldest daughter then?

    Also, how exactly do you deal with the probably vast difference in your daughter and her colleagues/peers' Internet usage? You've talked about what she does in all that time not spent in your phone with courses, chores and almost certainly school so she doesn't spend too much time doing nothing, but most people like her classmates and other peers spend far more than 30 minutes on the Internet in any given day and most use their phones in school break, for example.

    Maybe I haven't fully explained how we do things

    You did, but It's been 2 weeks and I forgot about it, although you have elaborated a lot more here. What I meant by that was that I would have thought you might have not seen a good reason to let your oldest daughter use the Internet at all since there wasn't much there for children/babies in the Internet ca. 2010 or so beyond stuff like flash games, and only later did you realize that maintaining their Internet use at a minimum and watching what they do with that time is the right way to parent a kid* and that was when you began looking into clear guidelines like your half (now under one and a half) hours per day of Internet time.

    To shorten that to a few sentences, what I meant by that was if you went from thinking "I dont see why should a toddler/kid should use the internet" to "letting my kids/teenagers use the Internet too much is a bad idea and I shouldn't let that happen"

    *obviously your first daughter's not a kid/toddler now, this is talking about your decisions when she was.

  4. Comment on Should we talk about voting again? in ~tildes

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    Yes it does. Sometimes for the worse, sometimes for the better. It usually depends on my guess as to why are people voting (or not) 'for' my comment. Probably. One of the big examples, at least to...

    Do you think how voting works changes your/other's behavior on this site? and if it does, is this change positive or negative?

    Yes it does. Sometimes for the worse, sometimes for the better. It usually depends on my guess as to why are people voting (or not) 'for' my comment.

    Would you support reworking/modifying voting? If so, how?

    Probably. One of the big examples, at least to me is ratio-ing. If you say something and you get 4 votes and someone replies to you and gets 7, it definitely gives great credibility to whoever replied, but you need to figure out why by yourself. Is it because their comment is good or your comment is bad? Is this a thing of opinions or facts?

    As to how, I definitely support the idea of adding labels to elaborate on why the "good" votes are being cast. The main reason I care about how many people vote on comments (often mine but not necessarily) is to try to figure out how many people found my comment usually some mix of vaguely interesting, relevant or just to see if people found some link I posted good. Making those things clearer seems helpful. I also support having a measure of how many people have read your comment (only visible to creator), although that seems contradictory to the goal of privacy.

    I also agree that letting people have simple reactions as labels (that don't affect the comment's scoring or ranking) is probably a good idea, because otherwise you can't really compliment people outside of their PMs and while having 12 PMs saying "thank you" and "great comment" in your inbox seems nice, it does seem somewhat cluttersome, especially given the lack of distinction between notifications from PMs and comments.

    How long should we test said modifications if they are made?

    6 weeks minimum perhaps? Although the election is less than 6 weeks from now so it shouldn't be now.

    Anything else you consider relevant?

    Not everyone votes in the same way, which means trying to figure out why some comments have more votes than others is not exactly doable or practical.

    Sometimes people can say good and bad things in a comment and the vote ends up applying to the whole comment. Being able to single out a specific paragraph or segment in a comment as good or bad seems like an idea worth considering

    3 votes
  5. Can we please have a highlight showing where a topic's title has been edited in the topic log?

    It could look like Wikipedia, where green shows what was added in the bottom section and red shows what was removed in the top section. Maybe orange and blue for coloblind people. Useful for typos...

    It could look like Wikipedia, where green shows what was added in the bottom section and red shows what was removed in the top section. Maybe orange and blue for coloblind people. Useful for typos or small title tweaks, not so much bigger changes

    I can never tell how it is currently without reading through the titles at least twice if it's a typo.

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  6. Comment on The supply of disinformation will soon be infinite: Disinformation campaigns used to require a lot of human effort to be effective, but now artificial intelligence could take them to a whole new level in ~tech

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    Meta EDIT: I took a 0 out of my link by accident, can someone please fix that for me? EDIT: Deimos did, so thanks for that.
    Meta

    EDIT: I took a 0 out of my link by accident, can someone please fix that for me?

    EDIT: Deimos did, so thanks for that.

    Someday soon, the reading public will miss the days when a bit of detective work could identify completely fictitious authors. Consider the case of “Alice Donovan.” In 2016, a freelance writer by that name emailed the editors of CounterPunch, a left-leaning independent media site, to pitch a story. Her Twitter profile identified her as a journalist. Over a period of 18 months, Donovan pitched CounterPunch regularly; the publication accepted a handful of her pieces, and a collection of left-leaning sites accepted others.

    Then, in 2018, the editor of CounterPunch received a phone call from The Washington Post. A reporter there had obtained an FBI report suggesting that Alice Donovan was a “persona account”—a fictitious figure—created by the Main Directorate, the Russian military-intelligence agency commonly known as the GU. Skeptical of the Russia link, but concerned about having potentially published content from a fake person, the CounterPunch editors pored over Donovan’s oeuvre, which spanned topics as varied as Syria, Black Lives Matter, and Hillary Clinton’s emails. They found her to be not only suspicious, but also a plagiarist: Some of the articles bearing her byline appeared to have been written instead by another woman, Sophia Mangal, a journalist affiliated with something called the Inside Syria Media Center.

    The ideal scenario for the modern propagandist, of course, is to have convincing personas produce original content. Generative text is the next frontier. Released in a beta version in June by the artificial-intelligence research lab OpenAI, a tool called GPT-3 generates long-form articles as effortlessly as it composes tweets, and its output is often difficult to distinguish from the work of human beings. In fact, it wrote parts of this article. Tools like this won’t just supercharge global propaganda operations; they will force internet platforms and average users alike to find new ways of deciding what and whom to trust.

    When I prompted GPT-3 to opine on these issues, it captured the problem succinctly:

    For the moment, at least, it seems unlikely that generative media will be effective in the same way as traditional media at promoting political messages. However, that’s not to say that it couldn’t be. What it will do is muddle the waters, making it much harder to tell what’s real and what’s not.

    One 2018 “opinion-rigging” operation in South Korea spearheaded by a popular blogger used a combination of human commenters as well as an automated program to post and boost comments critical of a particular politician. Seoul police noted the volume of two days of activity: “They manipulated about 20,000 comments on 675 news articles, using 2,290 different IDs from January 17 to 18.” In the quaint early days of social-media manipulation, such efforts were limited by human constraints. That will soon no longer be the case.

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  7. Comment on What's something you have always wanted to know about being LGBT (but were maybe afraid to ask)? in ~talk

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    It's been months since anyone has left a comment (which is quite unusual for a big thread like this) but I have a few more questions. The LGBT-GSRM community/population is far more progressive...

    It's been months since anyone has left a comment (which is quite unusual for a big thread like this) but I have a few more questions.

    The LGBT-GSRM community/population is far more progressive (more like minimally civilized but let's not circlejerk too much lmao) group than the wider population. How does this affect social activities, particularly activities which you only do with other LGBT-GSRM people (Gay and Poly dating are what comes to mind first, although that's probably only the most common example), where this effect is most intense?

    Do you prefer making friends with other LGBT people? If so, why? Is it because they'll know what you're going through being part of the same group, for example?

    Do you think the progressiveness of the LGBT people makes stuff like dates more enjoyable since people tend to have less misconceptions of life or misconceived notion of how things "should" be?

    If you're asexual (aro-ace and maybe sex-repulsed, I've lurked on a few asexual subreddits to learn that fortunately): which noone in the panel seems to be :/

    What do you think of current dating? (Supposedly as an outsider looking in?)

    When did you realize that you don't really feel the need to find a SO/have sex with someone? How has that affected you?

    How many people have you needed to turn down because of this? How did they react to you telling them you're asexual? (if you did that, I guess.) Did they believe you?

    Do you think asexuality is lesser known when compared to other LGBT-GSRM groups? How do you think that affects the discourse and public opinion around it?

    3 votes
  8. Comment on If you're a parent, what is it like? in ~talk

    Kuromantis
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    Whoops, I forgot that in my depressingly visceral reaction to the idea of being in your situation :/ Switching to a different topic about your daughter, was there anyone telling people to not let...

    At the point we were at, that decision was exclusively my wife's to make, and mine to support.

    Whoops, I forgot that in my depressingly visceral reaction to the idea of being in your situation :/

    Switching to a different topic about your daughter, was there anyone telling people to not let their kids use computers/early IPhones indefinitely when she was a baby?

    If not, then what led you to make that decision? Did you just passively not see a reason for your children to use the Internet and only realize that you made a good decision later and why? I know stuff like "videogames cause violence" has been around for 30 years but that was said by a religious hack IIRC. I feel like people have only began caring about the side effects of social media for 5 years and noone seemed to be worried about social media and telling people that using it too much was bad in 2010 or 2007.

  9. Comment on Department of Justice designates New York City, Seattle, and Portland as “anarchist jurisdictions” in ~news

    Kuromantis
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    Related map Isn't this mostly by virtue of population though? While that doesn't discredit urban relevance (see every corporation's headquarters) or the politicization of federal aid (at least at...

    Related map

    Isn't this mostly by virtue of population though? While that doesn't discredit urban relevance (see every corporation's headquarters) or the politicization of federal aid (at least at the state level), that doesn't mean cities are the relevant places while rural areas are just dead, useless weight hobbling us per capita, right?

    2 votes
  10. Comment on The Results of the Actual Unofficial 2020 Tildes Census in ~tildes

    Kuromantis
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    Yes. Took me 3 backup notes on my phone, actually 5 or 6 hours ("a few" being before constantly bouncing around 2-10% battery in 15 minute intervals), 80% of my phone battery (and a lot of...

    YOU DID THIS ONE A PHONE? YOU MAD FUCKING LAD.

    Yes. Took me 3 backup notes on my phone, actually 5 or 6 hours ("a few" being before constantly bouncing around 2-10% battery in 15 minute intervals), 80% of my phone battery (and a lot of probably bad charging habits) and finding this pretty engaging for the entire stretch because... I honestly don't know why, but I liked doing this.

    My best guess is initial occurence in the original dataset, as the code walks through the CSV and adds it to the respective dictionary (a map, basically, doesn't matter if you don't know what that is), so it's not really sorted by anything.

    Hm. My guess after sorting through all that was that they're ordered based on how long has it been since someone last answered that kinda like the activity sorts here because a lot of the bottom answers only have 1 or 2 people who picked them as answers.

    Taiwan also got counted towards China. It's a function in excel to generate country graphs, so it's on Microsoft.

    M' kay. To hell with them traitors! But seriously, wiping that nation off the map is really dumb, even if it's a super poor place.

    B a s e d. All HAIL THE COMPASS.

    Noo, you can't do that, we've already told you so!

    Jokes aside, I was gonna defend your reply that it is just an edgy humor sub and I went to check politicalcompassmemes and a comment saying "interracial porn is globalist propaganda" (nearly verbatim) got 100 upvotes and a similar comment on the same post with 600. It's very depressing to see how the sub is turning out.

    Otherwise, very dank my chap.

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  11. Comment on The Results of the Actual Unofficial 2020 Tildes Census in ~tildes

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    ...this will not get as high as I'd like as soon as I'd like. Either way, the more, the better. Fair. Papua new Guinea got wiped off the map apparently. (Well, it wasn't there in the last map...
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    In the year of the lord, 2020 (CAN YOU PLEASE END ALREADY) we got 350 responses in, which is a whopping 100 more than last year.

    ...this will not get as high as I'd like as soon as I'd like.

    Either way, the more, the better.

    Not much has changed, the US still dominates, Canada second, though the British are catching up. I'm sure you'll have your tea party eventually. Though with good ol' Boris in charge I don't know if annexing the yanks is such a good idea. Also, as there are no invidual option here for everyone to FUCK IT UP it's the most sane graph of them all. No fucked colours this year, I promise, it's all scale.

    Fair. Papua new Guinea got wiped off the map apparently. (Well, it wasn't there in the last map either. Odd.) Again, the UK and Canada is super weird compared to their real populations. I would have loved a gradient instead of dark blue=US and light blue=everywhere else but this is still way better than the previous map. A Romanian (IDK), a Hungarian (Eric_the_Cerise), a Malaysian, 4 Norwegians, an Argentinian, 2 mexicans, an Afghani (CALICO) and a Greek joined, 2 Malaysians and an Egyptian have left when it comes to people from different countries that weren't there previously.

    Fancy Graph #2: Age by decile. For those wanting to repeat this, watch out, as the age by decile and specific age questions were exclusionary. You'll have to combine the results to get the same numbers. I hope. Unless I fucked up. Equal possibility.

    the direct age data according to OP's pastebin, although I added in a bunch of zeroes and sorted it.
    "10-20": 19,
    "21-30": 60,
    "31-40": 45,
    "41-50": 14,
    "51-60": 2
    

    "-1": 137,
    "13": 0,
    "14": 2,
    "15": 1,
    "16": 3,
    "17": 4,
    "18": 7,
    "19": 6,
    "20": 15,
    "21": 10,
    "22": 12,
    "23": 11,
    "24": 11,
    "25": 13,
    "26": 12,
    "27": 10,
    "28": 11,
    "29": 10,
    "29.8": 1,
    "30": 13,
    "31": 7,
    "32": 10,
    "33": 6,
    "34": 1,
    "35": 6,
    "36": 6,
    "37": 3,
    "38": 4,
    "39": 2,
    "40": 4,
    "41": 0,
    "42": 3,
    "43": 2,
    "44": 0,
    "45": 2,
    "46": 0,
    "47": 0,
    "48": 0,
    "49": 0;
    "50": 1,
    "51": 1,
    "52": 0,
    "53": 0,
    "54": 0;
    "55": 1
    

    ...I'm trying to figure out what in the world is this stuff is being sorted by. I reorganized it to save myself a headache.

    Anyway, the age distribution is as follows (these are all estimates because of the dual dataset):

    Bottom 10%: 16-19

    Lower 25%: 21-24

    Lower 40%: 25-27

    Median: 26-28 (unchanged)

    60%: 30-32

    75%: 33-35

    90%: 37-43

    Tl;dr Most people here are older than me and younger than my mother.

    Anyway, I'm still one of the youngest people active here. I guess that stuff doesn't really change overnight so it doesn't really matter that much, does it?

    Fancy Graph #3: Gender

    Trans? Value
    NO ANSWER 13
    no 312
    yes 23

    Yeah I'm not gonna make a graph for a yes/no question, if that's bigoted you may scream at me in the comments.

    Compared to the previous census there are:

    60 more men (85.8 -> 86.3%, up 0.5%)

    7 more enbies (4 -> 5.3%, up 1.3%)

    1 more woman (8.8% -> 7.2%, down 1.6%)

    31 more people who said no. (You don't get counted in the percentages.)

    Tl;dr: Tildes is getting more based /s

    (r/politicalcompassmemes has warped my sense of humor. Please help.)

    Each woman here could walk off with 9 men and there would still be men left over. This is the second survey in which that ratio has gotten higher. That isn't too great.

    As for the trans people, their share of the population has gone from 6.8 to 7.4%. That's neat-y.

    Sexuality, according to the pastebin.
    "NO ANSWER": 36,
    "heterosexual": 210,
    "asexual": 9,
    "bisexual": 43,
    "pansexual": 19,
    "homosexual": 22,
    "demisexual": 1,
    "bi-curious": 1,
    "not sure": 1,
    "heteroflexible": 1,
    "gay demisexual/gray asexual - something like that": 1,
    "prefer not to say": 1,
    "heterosexual, but also at least partly demisexual": 1,
    

    Pansexual and asexual responses have boosted, probably because that stuff is now presented immediately in the census instead of bring a write-in option, which is really odd unless 28 people here have realized they're pan or ace since the last census I'm confused. Everthing else seems to have gone up proportionally, which is very swell.

    This site's Kinsey scale, also sorted properly
    "-2" (no answer): 57,
    "-1": 34,
    "0": 73, 
    "1": 71,
    "2": 50,
    "3": 29,
    "4": 7,
    "5": 15,
    "6": 12
    

    It's hard for me personally to get used to the idea that sexuality is kind of... amorphous but otherwise, this is very neat.

    Just over half (56%) of the site is either clearly or practically straight, just under a fifth leans straight, 6% is bi and leaning gay and just over 10% is practically or clealy gay.

    Ethnicity

    This was a mistake. 124 wrote white. 23 wrote caucasian. One person wrote causcasion. One person wrote that it's illegal to ask this question in their country. Someone wrote I bleed red white and blue.

    THIS WAS A MISTAKE.

    Kill me. Safe to say, that Tildes is, as someone put it perfectly: white af. Yes this was also a reply. KILL ME.

    I checked the pastebin and I'm not gonna try to review that either lol. Sorry my answer is part of the non-machine readable bit either. We could try to make a fixed Ethnicity thing with 30 or so answers which is diverse enough to work and then let people loose, although given there are entire channels dedicated to this stuff, I am doing a fair bit of trivializing.

    Language

    Fancy Graph #3,5: Language (This was added later, and I'm really not updating the others.)

    I don't think that much has changed here.

    EDIT: There has, a bit. German and Spanish have swapped 1st and 3rd, although their proportions to the whole and eachother haven't changed. (They're around 15, 17 and 18% in both surveys.) Only one Arabic speaker showed up even though there were 4 last census, as did a Hebrew speaker as opposed to 2.

    The amount of languages represented has changed from 34 to around 48, including small (in both ways) artistic conlangs like Toki Pona, practical languages like ASL to even somewhat oppressed languages like Cantonese. All in all, neat.

    Religion

    I'm just gonna let the graph speak for itself, I don't have it in me to keep the anger up.

    Fancy Graph #4: Religion

    Anti-theism (i.e atheism but openly hostile to religion) is not on the list? Cringe.

    Otherwise, I'm happy with the current makeup and it hasn't changed much since last time, atheism and agnosticism are again the 2 largest groups, although their shares are somewhat higher at 55% instead of 47% for atheism followed by agnosticism at 28% instead of 26%.

    Christians and indifferent people have swapped ranks since indifferent people are a full 10 points higher at 18 instead of 8% in this survey. (although I ignore indifferent people when adding the other stuff up to percentages.) Meanwhie Christians are a percentage point lower, with total number the same.

    Judaism, Paganism, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism remain the following 5 religions, although their numbers and order change a little.

    Politics

    If I average out our Sapply values, we get this compass result. Yeah we're all communists. So whoever said in their dislike the alt right people on this platform, I really don't know what you mean. If anything we need more to achieve PEAK CENTRISM. In all honesty, the people saying that this sub is a leftist echo chamber (there were a few), you may have a point.

    That's just a bit right of me (me for reference), awesome!

    (I'll maybe go through the rest of the answers later when my phone battery isn't near 0.)

    The political data
    axis 1
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    "-53": 1,
    
    "-10": 6,
    "-9.8": 1,
    "-9.67": 4,
    "-9.33": 2,
    "-9.3": 1,
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    "-7": 11,
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    "3": 1,
    "3.67": 1,
    "4": 2,
    "5": 2,
    "6.33": 1,
    "8": 1,
    "10": 2,
    
    axis 2
    "-69": 120,
    
    "-10": 3,
    "-8": 6,
    "-6": 1,
    "-5.94": 1,
    "-5.33": 2,
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    "3.75": 4,
    "4": 1,
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    "4.38": 7,
    "4.69": 5,
    "5": 7,
    "5.31": 7,
    "5.58": 1,
    "5.63": 13,
    "5.67": 1,
    "5.94": 12,
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    "6.6": 1,
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    "10.4": 1,
    
    axis 3
    "-69": 117,
    
    "-10": 2,
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    "-6.41": 1,
    "-6.33": 2,
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    "4.67": 2,
    "4.69": 1,
    "5.63": 1,
    "6.88": 1
    "7": 2,
    "7.19": 1,
    "7.81": 1,
    "8": 6,
    "8.44": 1,
    "8.8": 1,
    "9": 1,
    "9.06": 3,
    "10": 3,
    

    So?

    Axis 1 is mainly negative, axis 2 is positive and axis 3 is neutral-ish. Given the average chart Grzmot has given us, axis 1, 2 and 3 are econ, social/cultural and governmental respectively and we are (on average) moderately progressive, moderately leftist and governmentally ambivalent, i.e socdems, which is not surprising, so let's elaborate, by septile. (And a bunch of ideologies I don't know about.)

    Economics

    Sapply Score rough ideology no. and % of answers
    -10 to -7.14 far left, socialism, communism 45 answers, 19%
    -7.14 to -4.3 left, market socialism or democratic socialism 79 answers, 33(.5)%
    -4.3 to -1.4 left of center/moderate left, social liberalism, social democracy 66 answers, 28%
    -1.4 to 1.4 center, mixed economics 30 answers, 13%
    1.4 to 4.3 right of center/moderate right, moderate capitalism, maybe keynesianism, IDK 7 answers, 3%
    4.3 to 7.14 right, capitalism 3 answers, 1.3%
    7.14 to 10 far right, laissez-faire 3 answers, 1.3%

    Social-Cultural

    Sapply Score rough ideology no. and % of answers
    -10 to -7.14 far right, reactionary politics 9 answers, 4%
    -7.14 to -4.3 right, conservatism, religious politics 10 answers, 4%
    -4.3 to -1.4 moderate right, compassionate conservatism/Romney-ism 9 answers, 4%
    -1.4 to 1.4 center, I honestly don't know 14 answers, 6%
    1.4 to 4.3 left of center/moderate left, liberalism 30 answers, 13%
    4.3 to 7.14 left, social progressivism 90 answers, 40%
    7.14 to 10 far left, social libertarianism? 69 answers, 30%

    Governmental

    Sapply Score rough ideology no. and % of answers
    -10 to -7.14 extreme libertarianism, anarchism/minarchism 4 answers, 1.7%
    -7.14 to -4.3 libertarianism, georgism, Luxemburgism? 15 answers, 6.4%
    -4.3 to -1.4 moderate libertarianism, classical liberalism? 40 answers, 17%
    -1.4 to 1.4 centrism, social democracy, neoliberalism 104 answers, 44.6%
    1.4 to 4.3 moderate authoritarianism, Neoconservatism? 43 answers, 18.4%
    4.3 to 7.14 Authoritarianism, national conservatism 8 answers, 3.4%
    7.14 to 10 despotism/totalitarianism, Marxism-Leninism 17 answers, 7.3%

    Education

    Tildes is an educated lot, contrary to popular my belief after making this census. A good chunk of people have a Bachelors, Masters, PhD.

    This is definitely one of those moments where it shows that Tildes's userbase actually appears to be somewhat privileged compared to the general population. This is the kind of audience that finds and is able to contribute to spaces that want 'high quality conversation'.

    Work

    Actually fairly sensible results, except a few, like that one person that entered not STEM, thanks for not giving me any useful information. You have the ability TO NOT ENTER SOMETHING. THIS GOES FOR THE PERSON WHO ENTERED meh AS FUCKING WELL, [REDACTED].

    Fancy Graph #6: Work

    Technology

    Fancy Graph #7: Computer Operating Systems

    Fancy Graph #8: Mobile Operating Systems

    At this point I don't have that much to contribute. All these seem to be relatively unchanged from last census.

    Fancy Graph #9: Various Tildes Statistics

    The fact that the majority of the site says activity and all time respectively is pretty encouraging when it comes to posting in old threads, so I'll likely be doing that more often.


    Anyway, that actually took me a few hours and half of this was done while charging the phone battery so it doesn't die ( you can tell by how much less detailed the latter half of my comment is :P )

    And, as the person who asked for us to have a regular census, I thank you for this.

    17 votes
  12. Comment on What keyboard do you use? in ~tech

    Kuromantis
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    How many years exactly?

    How many years exactly?

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  13. Comment on What did you do this week? in ~talk

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    Went to cut (trim?) my hair. This time I decided to ask him to straighten my hair instead of keeping it afro-ey because I felt like it for a pretty decent while before now. While he straightened...

    Went to cut (trim?) my hair. This time I decided to ask him to straighten my hair instead of keeping it afro-ey because I felt like it for a pretty decent while before now. While he straightened my hair, he also gave me a somewhat detailed haircut, probably because most people my age in my neighborhood like that (this is vaguely in the Brazilian urban periphery, although not too deep in.) I should probably tell him next time to just straighten my hair and comb it. In the meantime I'll just wash my hair, comb it and forget about it.

    My mother also made some plum cake for us. It's not anyone's birthday so probably because she felt like it which is fair, want doing stuff just because we feel like it is often pretty fun.

    My grandma also decided to visit for a bit, mainly to talk with us, mainly about how my father's side of the family is going, (because it's kinda unstable, I've talked about this before, albeit sparingly) but also talk about a digital watch my grandfather got me (it's not from any brand, is pretty simple and I haven't really used it because of the lockdown if you want to know) and other things.

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  14. Comment on Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, champion of gender equality, dies at eighty-seven in ~news

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    Related article: Trump’s shortlist of potential Supreme Court nominees, explained: Trump wants to remind loyalists that, if he wins in November, they’ll get more judges who will enact Republican...

    Related article:

    Trump’s shortlist of potential Supreme Court nominees, explained: Trump wants to remind loyalists that, if he wins in November, they’ll get more judges who will enact Republican policy.

    The next Trump Supreme Court pick may well come from a list of 20 names he revealed last week, plus a longer list he had already released.

    The Trump White House and his allies in the Senate have spent years preparing for the next Supreme Court vacancy.

    Because so many Trump appointees make the list, many of these judges have not served long enough to develop substantial records on the bench. But several of the names on Trump’s new list will raise deep concerns among Democrats.

    Judge James Ho, for example, has spent his not even three years on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit writing opinions that read like something published by Breitbart. His very first judicial opinion was a sweeping attack on campaign finance laws — and it included an entirely gratuitous swipe at the Affordable Care Act. Ho argued that “if you don’t like big money in politics, then you should oppose big government in our lives,” and he cited the Supreme Court’s decision largely upholding Obamacare to drive home his point.

    Ho has also railed against the “moral tragedy of abortion” in an opinion where he accused a fellow federal judge of retaliating “against people of faith for not only believing in the sanctity of life—but also for wanting to do something about it.”

    Ho’s Fifth Circuit colleague Kyle Duncan, meanwhile, spent much of his pre-judicial career litigating against LGBTQ rights and the right to vote. As a judge, he’s best known for an opinion where he spent more than 10 pages explaining why he insists on referring to a transgender woman using masculine pronouns.

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  15. Comment on Does anyone here feel like talking about how social media sites are probably used for way too many different purposes at once right now? in ~talk

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    I don't disagree with anything you have said, business/revenue models are simply put, how a company makes money and if the money comes from people watching advertising it's no surprise data mining...

    I don't disagree with anything you have said, business/revenue models are simply put, how a company makes money and if the money comes from people watching advertising it's no surprise data mining is the way for social media today and destroying that is certainly more important than what I have written in this post if you think I disagree.

    I just wonder if it would be beneficial if different forms of content and uses (discussion, memes, blogging, image sharing, news sharing, educational content, etc) were led by different platforms focusing primarily on those things instead of one or a few platforms that run it all simultaneously, and this could also have a antitrust quality to it IMO.

  16. Does anyone here feel like talking about how social media sites are probably used for way too many different purposes at once right now?

    In this thread, @viridian said this: Twitter, in my limited usage, has a completely different problem. It actively encourages you, by rule of the 280 character limit, to strip away all nuance and...

    In this thread, @viridian said this:

    Twitter, in my limited usage, has a completely different problem. It actively encourages you, by rule of the 280 character limit, to strip away all nuance and conversational tone. You can avoid this of course, but the UI ensures that you then suffer the consequences of having to

    split up your posts into multiple tweets, which is bad by design in every single way for the user. Replies become distributed to different tweets, and thus inaccessible without a series of 2*(# of tweets) clicks. Everything about the design is just begging you to

    box in the entirety of your thoughts to 280 character blocks, which I think is the single largest issue the platform has when it comes to encouraging thoughtful engagement. Twitter actives fights nuance and explanation, and so the platforms users follow the bad behavior

    patterns Twitter encourages.

    Completely agree, it is a bit of a feedback loop. You do have to say though that even the fact it's no longer at the original 140 characters is a concession to the fact that the kind of discourse that now happens on there rather than what it was intended for. I imagine designing something to handle both types of usage well while maintaining the platform's identity can't be easy.

    (Okay, this one was said by @culturedleftfoot.)

    It's certainly not an easy problem to solve, it may even be impossible. That said though, maybe a 280 character mass social media platform is just destined to be a net negative for society.

    And it reminded me of this comment I wrote a while ago:

    To be fair it the term 'social media' is pretty useless when it comes to describing a site's purpose. In twitter, for example, you have celebrities rambling about random aspects of their lives, politicians delivering serious to obviously canned responses to serious or made-up problems, anime artists sharing their work, YouTubers sharing sneak peeks for future videos or shilling out, all in the same platform, which is disponible in 33 languages across every continent except Sub-Saharan Africa. (which was started specifically as a SMS & microblogging site, hence the word limit). Not many 'social media platforms' actually have their intended purpose be their sole purpose, which can backfire intensely. Social media platforms might have decided to recommend people with similar opinions to you as an unintended consequence in order to find people with similar hobbies to you, rather than to create an echo chamber of radicals and stifle communication between different political beliefs.

    (Not that the fact that's a real possibility excuses them from not doing anything to combat it once they realized that was one of the side effects of their decision for most or all of my lifetime.)

    One of the IMO most underrated problems with the state of social media today is that social media platforms are used in far too many ways for any one site to be designed around.

    YouTube for example is used as a meme-consumption feed, source of education, video-game feed, ASMR feed, news feed, music feed, child cartoon feed and more.

    And since YouTube was designed mostly for video sharing, things like the comment section were of secondary importance and areas like educational or political content are greatly harmed by that since the YouTube comment section is basically impervious to serious discussion. The algorithm also appears to be basically universal for all these vastly different types of content. This also hurts educational and political channels (unless they somehow accommodate to that, usually by lying ala PragerU) but also animation channels.

    Another example would be Facebook which originally (supposedly?) started off as a platform for connecting with people, apparently limited to universities initially. Now it's used for sharing memes, news, personal life updates and more, things which are fundamentally quite different from one another and probably shouldn't be under the same site, since the things important when it comes to spreading a news article are wildly different from those when spreading a meme (format?). (Or management, obviously.)

    IMO, decentralizing social media along these lines into say news sharing platforms, meme-sharing platforms, image-sharing platforms, educational platforms, social platforms (where you go to make friends, which is what social media billed itself as early on IIRC) is IMO one of the more interesting but underlooked options and in some senses is looked on into with places like Instagram and pinterest (although obviously if these sites aren't regulated to provide privacy it's all smoke and mirrors and given this requires government action I don't blame people for ignoring this all that much).

    So does anyone else have any more thoughts?

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  17. Comment on Weekly coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - week of September 14 in ~health.coronavirus

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    I'm not gonna disagree with the rest of your post but isn't this mostly a partisan issue in the US like so much stuff?

    Also, strikes, especially public sector strikes, need public support, which we don't have. Teachers are not widely respected in the US and we've been subject to a sort of widespread institutional character assassination.

    I'm not gonna disagree with the rest of your post but isn't this mostly a partisan issue in the US like so much stuff?

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  18. Comment on Has anyone in an online discussion/argument ever actually changed your opinion about something? in ~talk

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    When it comes to having a strong opinion dissuaded by one or a few arguments with someone I think these replies to me are the best example for me. I believed that having a larger share of older...

    When it comes to having a strong opinion dissuaded by one or a few arguments with someone I think these replies to me are the best example for me.

    I believed that having a larger share of older people in a society was kind of like adding risk to it and this is one of the primary reasons that we should care about our birth rates instead of just letting our population decline (back).

    For example it's widely believed that people form their political opinions in their 20s and stick with them for the rest of their lives. The implication of something like this is that the older your nation is, the older it's political and cultural beliefs and habits will be and having a larger share of old people in a society implies having a society's political habits and mannerisms age accordingly.

    Ultimately the arguments are that:

    Old people aren't predestined to become frail/bad at learning/easily manipulable and if they do age is usually secondary or irrelevant to it

    Adapting to an aging society isn't that hard and doesn't really require anything wacky/futuristic like artificial wombs.

    It's super simple/obvious in hindsight but when modern rightism is trying it's damnedest to act as proof of this it's depressingly easy to believe old people are a danger to/powderkeg in society :/

    There was also this comment where I realized gender studies was important with only 2 paragraphs' worth of text, although I, like mrbig above never really opposed gender studies so much as not see the point/importance.

    1 vote
  19. Comment on What's the deal with gemini? in ~comp

    Kuromantis
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    Being a 'bona-fide'lul 14-yo teen (Reddit.Inc celebrates their birthdays before I do lol) I'm gonna gave to ask for context. So, like panning for gold in a river? Doesn't sound all that fun. You...

    Being a 'bona-fide'lul 14-yo teen (Reddit.Inc celebrates their birthdays before I do lol) I'm gonna gave to ask for context.

    Imagine the most anarchic nonsense you can imagine, interspersed with absolute brilliance. The thing you love? It was there, hidden in layers of layers of basically same-looking html webpages, and attempts at wikis, and webrings.

    So, like panning for gold in a river? Doesn't sound all that fun. You can stumble into funny things but it sounds like that would get tiring eventually if the reason you're there isn't to basically digitally wander around for fun, right? (Also, what's a webring?)

    Imagine suddenly one day talking to someone from the other side of the world - I can't stress this enough. Suddenly, one day, the place you've never been to - that you only had weird stereotypes about - you could TALK to them! Random people! And they where just like you!
    EDIT: Really, this is the big thing, I grew up being taught Americans where dumb, racist, violent and fat. A nation filled with slobbering imperialists dreaming of murder and fatty food.
    So the first time I talked to someone from the US and realized that she was just another idiot. Like me. Sure there where differences, but the both of us and then a guy from the Middle East, and this dude from Spain where talking and we where just anything but the stereotypes everyone assumed we where. More AND less. It was beautiful.

    I agree that doing that for the first time where that was previously impossible seems great but it's not like that went away, I mean come on, we're literally doing exactly this right now. Sure algorithms are getting in the way of that and they suck when that's what they're made for in any social media platform, but it's not like those interactions have gone extinct, even in the major, commercial (above all else at this point) platforms.

    Then the ads came along. Then the spying and the massive communities handled by huge companies. The beautiful interfaces designed to make you post over and over, to update over and over, to push you harder and harder to divulge personal information and marketable data.

    It became more about showing a fake you, than having a place - a hidden spot - to talk to people, to read, write and do shit. People hashtagging images from gyms, diners and vacations.

    The people I see as my oldest friends are posting things that makes them strangers to me, they have to though because its what they are when they need employment.

    These seem like capitalism/neoliberalism/crony capitalism problems, not really Social Media problems. We can go back on most of the stuff you're talking about without abandoning the social media-like structure entirely, and it's not like you disagree with that. (Although obviously that's not simple/easy to do.) That's not too far from what this site is/wants to be/achieve, really.

    I also have one more question.

    IIRC, the Internet/WWW was made for the purposes of easing communication and collecting/sharing of scientific (and/or military) data. Doesn't stuff like this and the emphasis on how it's gonna be hidden kinda run against that?

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