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Beto O'Rourke's Secret Membership in America's Oldest Hacking Group

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    orangse (edited ) Link
    The article is vague on whether or not Beto O'Rourke actually did any hacking or whether he just used exploits found and exploited by others. He was however a relatively prolific writer under the...

    The article is vague on whether or not Beto O'Rourke actually did any hacking or whether he just used exploits found and exploited by others. He was however a relatively prolific writer under the nick Psychedelic Warlord in the Cult of the Dead Cow hacking group, posting multiple text files on their bbs. I did some text processing and you can find them here, the first being the parent site hosting all text files written by members of cDc, the rest being written by Beto O'Rourke:

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0031.txt A Feature on MONEY - Today's Monster by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0037.txt A Few Good Songs off of Eat Your Paisley by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0050.txt The Song of the Cow: a poem by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0059.txt Interview With Neo-Nazi 'Ausderau' by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0073.txt Visions From The Last Crusade by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0079.txt The True Story of Cult of the Dead Cow by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0121.txt Ultra Trendies by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/cDc-0130.txt My Day With The Dentist by Psychedelic Warlord

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/song.of.the.cow The Song of the Cow, a Poem, by Psychadelic Warlord of Cult of the Dead Cow (May 5, 1988)

    http://textfiles.com/groups/CDC/visions.crusade Visions from the Last Crusade, by Psychedelic Warlord (1988)

    I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this. With cybersecurity becoming more and more prevalent as a tool of nation states, how do you feel about a president who has experience with hacking and presumably has a better rule of thumb with regards to its pitfalls and capabilities? In addition, what do you think of the content of these text files?

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      doug3465 Link Parent
      As a Bernie supporter, I'm more inclined to give Beto a chance after reading this. Just the fact that he was so technically capable in 1988 is appealing.

      As a Bernie supporter, I'm more inclined to give Beto a chance after reading this. Just the fact that he was so technically capable in 1988 is appealing.

      11 votes
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        orangse Link Parent
        Well I wouldn't speak so soon if you're a Bernie supporter, he's pretty libertarian on a lot of business/corporate related issues. While I'd still put him in the neoliberal bucket due to his...

        Well I wouldn't speak so soon if you're a Bernie supporter, he's pretty libertarian on a lot of business/corporate related issues. While I'd still put him in the neoliberal bucket due to his progressive policies on gun control and climate change, he is against single payer by supporting the private insurance market. https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/beto-orourke-policy-beliefs-2020-campaign/index.html this article is pretty much a bullet point list of most of his policies, check it out to see how you like him.

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          1. orangse Link Parent
            Fair point, I'm not too well versed in politics outside of the sphere of online discussion. When I originally wrote it I meant it in the sense that many online left-leaning folks use: to co-opt...

            Fair point, I'm not too well versed in politics outside of the sphere of online discussion. When I originally wrote it I meant it in the sense that many online left-leaning folks use: to co-opt the derogatory term used by far-left people to refer to dems like Clinton and Pelosi. Essentially I meant someone who is well-liked by /r/neoliberal, which now writing it out makes it seem very non-obvious what kind of person I was talking about. Whoops, my bad

            2 votes
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      JuniperMonkeys Link Parent
      I'm on the same page as @doug3465; a president who was able to dial into a BBS would be a fun novelty. Moreover, I'm surprised and impressed to find out that O'Rourke has a personality. I'm in...

      I'm on the same page as @doug3465; a president who was able to dial into a BBS would be a fun novelty.

      Moreover, I'm surprised and impressed to find out that O'Rourke has a personality. I'm in California, so I wasn't paying a ton of attention to his most recent campaign, but all the national media really seemed to get across was that he was notably distinct from Human Biped Ted Cruz. For a 16 year-old on a BBS in 1988, his writing's not even inexplicably over-edgy.

      6 votes
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        orangse Link Parent
        It's kind of crazy, right? To speak a little more about O'Rourke's personality, the man was in a punk band and still skateboards. However, I do have to disagree with the over-edgy comment, in the...

        It's kind of crazy, right? To speak a little more about O'Rourke's personality, the man was in a punk band and still skateboards. However, I do have to disagree with the over-edgy comment, in the "A feature on money" text file he lays out some writing that just screams "teenage anarchist". It's pretty edgy imo, but some of it is a little more serious.

        However if that transcript of him meeting with the neo-nazi in the text file "Interview With Neo-Nazi 'Ausderau'" was real, I've gotta give him props there.

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        1. JuniperMonkeys Link Parent
          Oh, for sure -- I didn't mean to imply that his writing isn't pretty edgy, just that it's about as edgy as I would expect a 16 year-old on a BBS to be. I'd almost be disappointed in him if it...

          It's pretty edgy imo, but some of it is a little more serious.

          Oh, for sure -- I didn't mean to imply that his writing isn't pretty edgy, just that it's about as edgy as I would expect a 16 year-old on a BBS to be. I'd almost be disappointed in him if it wasn't edgy.

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          alyaza Link Parent
          it also demonstrates a better understanding of anarchism than probably 90% of people, though. his methods for achieving this end definitely wouldn't work, but his analysis in that document is...

          However, I do have to disagree with the over-edgy comment, in the "A feature on money" text file he lays out some writing that just screams "teenage anarchist". It's pretty edgy imo, but some of it is a little more serious.

          it also demonstrates a better understanding of anarchism than probably 90% of people, though. his methods for achieving this end definitely wouldn't work, but his analysis in that document is pretty well in line with anarchist theory and is actually quite good for a teenager in 1988 in a country where anarchism has never really been in vogue.

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            orangse Link Parent
            For sure. It just feels edgy since we know how he ended up, a pro-business democrat and software entrepreneur; not very anarchist. I don't know, I can't psychoanalyze from a 3 paragraph text file,...

            For sure. It just feels edgy since we know how he ended up, a pro-business democrat and software entrepreneur; not very anarchist. I don't know, I can't psychoanalyze from a 3 paragraph text file, maybe he legitimately believed in the ideology and was turned away by some series of events in his life.

            1 vote
            1. alyaza Link Parent
              i suspect he was never an anarchist for the simple reason that if he was, he'd probably not include that bit about his idea there being achieved nonviolently, since very few anarchists genuinely...

              For sure. It just feels edgy since we know how he ended up, a pro-business democrat and software entrepreneur; not very anarchist. I don't know, I can't psychoanalyze from a 3 paragraph text file, maybe he legitimately believed in the ideology and was turned away by some series of events in his life.

              i suspect he was never an anarchist for the simple reason that if he was, he'd probably not include that bit about his idea there being achieved nonviolently, since very few anarchists genuinely subscribe to pure nonviolence as a way to achieve anarchism. still, it's an interesting trajectory and it's pretty wild that he has like no fucking personality nowadays.

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