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A simulation of first contact ran on May 24, 2023. Here is the website with the details

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    Osiris
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    What’s the context here? Both the gitlab and main site are remarkably enigmatic. From what I’ve gathered, someone created an encrypted signal of simulated extraterrestrial origin, and the SETI...

    What’s the context here? Both the gitlab and main site are remarkably enigmatic.

    From what I’ve gathered, someone created an encrypted signal of simulated extraterrestrial origin, and the SETI community is trying to decode it? Is this a publicity project, or am I missing something?

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      space_cowboy
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      I think it's meant to simulate our imagination and hopefully get people thinking about how we could realistically begin to decode an alien message, or maybe even how to understand cetacean language.

      I think it's meant to simulate our imagination and hopefully get people thinking about how we could realistically begin to decode an alien message, or maybe even how to understand cetacean language.

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        Osiris
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        I’m skeptical decrypting a simulated message will prepare us to decrypt a real signal, but it’s a fun thought exercise. Reminds me of the message inscribed on voyager. I wonder if a real message...

        I’m skeptical decrypting a simulated message will prepare us to decrypt a real signal, but it’s a fun thought exercise. Reminds me of the message inscribed on voyager.

        I wonder if a real message would look something like that. Or if you’re partial to the dark forest explanation to the Fermi paradox, perhaps it would say only “Stop being so loud. They will find you.”

        Excerpt from the novel The Killing Star by Charles Pellegrino and George Zebrowski (1995).

        Imagine yourself taking a stroll through Manhattan, somewhere north of 68th Street, deep inside Central Park, late at night. It would be nice to meet someone friendly, but you know that the park is dangerous at night. That's when the monsters come out. There's always a strong undercurrent of drug dealings, muggings, and occasional homicides.

        It is not easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. They dress alike, and the weapons are concealed. The only difference is intent, and you can't read minds.

        Stay in the dark long enough and you may hear an occasional distance shriek or blunder across a body.

        How do you survive the night? The last thing you want to do is shout, "I'm here!" The next to last thing you want to do is reply to someone who shouts, "I'm a friend!"

        What you would like to do is find a policeman, or get out of the park. But you don't want to make noise or move towards a light where you might be spotted, and it is difficult to find either a policeman or your way out without making yourself known. Your safest option is to hunker down and wait for daylight, then safely walk out.

        There are, of course, a few obvious differences between Central Park and the universe.

        There is no policeman.

        There is no way out.

        And the night never ends.

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          Osiris
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          This is only tangentially related, but I have to use this opportunity to share one of my favorite short stories about a first contact. They’re Made Out Of Meat (1991) by Terry Bisson: “They’re...

          This is only tangentially related, but I have to use this opportunity to share one of my favorite short stories about a first contact.

          They’re Made Out Of Meat (1991) by Terry Bisson:

          “They’re made out of meat.”

          “Meat?”

          “Meat. They’re made out of meat.”

          “Meat?”

          “There’s no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They’re completely meat.”

          “That’s impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?”

          “They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don’t come from them. The signals come from machines.”

          “So who made the machines? That’s who we want to contact.”

          “They made the machines. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. Meat made the machines.”

          “That’s ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You’re asking me to believe in sentient meat.”

          “I’m not asking you, I’m telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they’re made out of meat.”

          “Maybe they’re like the orfolei. You know, a carbon- based intelligence that goes through a meat stage.”

          “Nope. They’re born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn’t take long. Do you have any idea what’s the life span of meat?”

          “Spare me. Okay, maybe they’re only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside.”

          “Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They’re meat all the way through.”

          “No brain?”

          “Oh, there’s a brain all right. It’s just that the brain is made out of meat! That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you.”

          “So ... what does the thinking?”

          “You’re not understanding, are you? You’re refusing to deal with what I’m telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat.”

          “Thinking meat! You’re asking me to believe in thinking meat!”

          “Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?”

          “Omigod. You’re serious then. They’re made out of meat.”

          “Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they’ve been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years.”

          “Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?”

          “First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual.”

          “We’re supposed to talk to meat.”

          “That’s the idea. That’s the message they’re sending out by radio. ‘Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.’ That sort of thing.”

          “They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?”

          ”Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat.”
          “I thought you just told me they used radio.”

          “They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat.”

          “Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?”

          “Officially or unofficially?”

          “Both.”

          “Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing.”

          “I was hoping you would say that.”

          “It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?”

          “I agree one hundred percent. What’s there to say? ‘Hello, meat. How’s it going?’ But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?”

          “Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can’t live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact.”

          “So we just pretend there’s no one home in the Universe.” “That’s it.”

          “Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You’re sure they won’t remember?”

          “They’ll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we’re just a dream to them.”

          “A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat’s dream.”

          “And we marked the entire sector unoccupied.”

          “Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?”

          “Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again.”

          “They always come around.”

          “And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone ...”

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          1. space_cowboy
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            Nice. I love that one. There are some good audio performances of it out there.

            Nice. I love that one. There are some good audio performances of it out there.

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  2. space_cowboy
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    So far, the message has been decoded; what it means is still an open question. Here is where you can find out more on that front: https://github.com/BatchDrake/ASignInSpace/tree/master/The_Message

    So far, the message has been decoded; what it means is still an open question. Here is where you can find out more on that front: https://github.com/BatchDrake/ASignInSpace/tree/master/The_Message

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